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08-26-2007, 10:21 PM
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Do you pay your income tax. If not; why not?
I do not pay income tax. Then again I don't have to because I'm not an American resident!
However, I would not pay the income tax even if I were one. I am on similar grounds to the much loved by 2+2'ers Chomsky regarding this issue: [ QUOTE ] My own feeling is that one should refuse to participate in any activity that implements American aggression -- thus tax refusal, draft refusal, avoidance of work that can be used by the agencies of militarism and repression, all seem to me essential. But I think that tax refusal is an important gesture, both because it symbolizes a refusal to make a voluntary contribution to the war machine and also because it indicates a willingness, which should, I think, be indicated, to take illegal measures to oppose an indecent government. [/ QUOTE ] I apologise if there has been any threads such as this on income tax, but, I will extend the debate to ANY form of taxation. In Britain it is even more lonely being opposed to tax that despite being "proportionate" provides (imo) an inadequate redistribution of wealth wherein the rich and elite still remain the power holders and beneficiaries of the state, society and capitalism with or without state protection/welfare intervention for the poor; this merely creates a vicious 'regulated' circle(this does not, however, make me more inclined to support "state capitalism to benefit the whole people" Leninist-Marxist contradictory rubbish or any form of state delivered socialism, which I also find oppressive). Not suprisingly I take the line that any form of governemt control, manipulation, and totalitarianism over the people (which taxation is a form thereof) achieves the inevitability of state preservation: the perpetration of aggression and oppression in the absence of real compassion and equallity. In other words I do not believe any government with whatever form of implemented taxation is fair or just and that it is always in the interest of the state to prevent fair redistribution of wealth amongst citizens who expect, from government forced taxation, to recieve an appropriate return in services and protection: which will never happen as it is not in the interest or capability of governments to do so. So: Do you pay your income tax. If not; why not? And do you extend your dislike of a direct unequally/non redistributed tax to ALL forms of taxation -whether it be conservative small government low tax or contrastly socialist proportionate high taxation. 
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08-27-2007, 02:36 AM
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Re: Do you pay your income tax. If not; why not?
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I do not pay income tax. Then again I don't have to because I'm not an American resident! However, I would not pay the income tax even if I were one. I am on similar grounds to the much loved by 2+2'ers Chomsky regarding this issue: [ QUOTE ] My own feeling is that one should refuse to participate in any activity that implements American aggression -- thus tax refusal, draft refusal, avoidance of work that can be used by the agencies of militarism and repression, all seem to me essential. But I think that tax refusal is an important gesture, both because it symbolizes a refusal to make a voluntary contribution to the war machine and also because it indicates a willingness, which should, I think, be indicated, to take illegal measures to oppose an indecent government. [/ QUOTE ] I apologise if there has been any threads such as this on income tax, but, I will extend the debate to ANY form of taxation. In Britain it is even more lonely being opposed to tax that despite being "proportionate" provides (imo) an inadequate redistribution of wealth wherein the rich and elite still remain the power holders and beneficiaries of the state, society and capitalism with or without state protection/welfare intervention for the poor; this merely creates a vicious 'regulated' circle(this does not, however, make me more inclined to support "state capitalism to benefit the whole people" Leninist-Marxist contradictory rubbish or any form of state delivered socialism, which I also find oppressive). Not suprisingly I take the line that any form of governemt control, manipulation, and totalitarianism over the people (which taxation is a form thereof) achieves the inevitability of state preservation: the perpetration of aggression and oppression in the absence of real compassion and equallity. In other words I do not believe any government with whatever form of implemented taxation is fair or just and that it is always in the interest of the state to prevent fair redistribution of wealth amongst citizens who expect, from government forced taxation, to recieve an appropriate return in services and protection: which will never happen as it is not in the interest or capability of governments to do so. So: Do you pay your income tax. If not; why not? And do you extend your dislike of a direct unequally/non redistributed tax to ALL forms of taxation -whether it be conservative small government low tax or contrastly socialist proportionate high taxation. [/ QUOTE ] and much hated by other 2+2ers. Chomsky pays his income taxes. Bad example.
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#5
08-27-2007, 05:59 AM
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Re: Do you pay your income tax. If not; why not?
I don't file income tax (did one year)... ironically, I'd actually get money if I did; but I fully intend not to file when I am making money too.
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08-27-2007, 06:19 AM
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Re: Do you pay your income tax. If not; why not?
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[ QUOTE ] I do not pay income tax. Then again I don't have to because I'm not an American resident! However, I would not pay the income tax even if I were one. I am on similar grounds to the much loved by 2+2'ers Chomsky regarding this issue: [ QUOTE ] My own feeling is that one should refuse to participate in any activity that implements American aggression -- thus tax refusal, draft refusal, avoidance of work that can be used by the agencies of militarism and repression, all seem to me essential. But I think that tax refusal is an important gesture, both because it symbolizes a refusal to make a voluntary contribution to the war machine and also because it indicates a willingness, which should, I think, be indicated, to take illegal measures to oppose an indecent government. [/ QUOTE ] I apologise if there has been any threads such as this on income tax, but, I will extend the debate to ANY form of taxation. In Britain it is even more lonely being opposed to tax that despite being "proportionate" provides (imo) an inadequate redistribution of wealth wherein the rich and elite still remain the power holders and beneficiaries of the state, society and capitalism with or without state protection/welfare intervention for the poor; this merely creates a vicious 'regulated' circle(this does not, however, make me more inclined to support "state capitalism to benefit the whole people" Leninist-Marxist contradictory rubbish or any form of state delivered socialism, which I also find oppressive). Not suprisingly I take the line that any form of governemt control, manipulation, and totalitarianism over the people (which taxation is a form thereof) achieves the inevitability of state preservation: the perpetration of aggression and oppression in the absence of real compassion and equallity. In other words I do not believe any government with whatever form of implemented taxation is fair or just and that it is always in the interest of the state to prevent fair redistribution of wealth amongst citizens who expect, from government forced taxation, to recieve an appropriate return in services and protection: which will never happen as it is not in the interest or capability of governments to do so. So: Do you pay your income tax. If not; why not? And do you extend your dislike of a direct unequally/non redistributed tax to ALL forms of taxation -whether it be conservative small government low tax or contrastly socialist proportionate high taxation. [/ QUOTE ] and much hated by other 2+2ers. Chomsky pays his income taxes. Bad example. [/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't call it a bad example. He doesn't really have the option since he's too high profile.
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08-27-2007, 07:33 AM
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Re: Do you pay your income tax. If not; why not?
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and much hated by other 2+2ers. Chomsky pays his income taxes. Bad example. [/ QUOTE ] His paychecks from M.I.T. have the taxes taken out already. His revenue from his books goes to either his wife or his kids. I forgot which. Bad example, indeed.
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#9
08-27-2007, 07:50 AM
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Re: Do you pay your income tax. If not; why not?
"His paychecks from M.I.T. have the taxes taken out already. His revenue from his books goes to either his wife or his kids. I forgot which. Bad example, indeed. "
He's a multimillionaire.
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08-27-2007, 10:50 AM
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Re: Do you pay your income tax. If not; why not?
Chomsky in the article I quoted from said he had not paid income tax for the previous 2 years. Regardless of whether if he does or not the reasons he gives for not paying are similar to beliefs I have regarding the matter.
I was interested in hearing other peoples opinion but whatever.
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