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Old 08-26-2007, 04:59 PM
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Default AA do I value bet river ?

No read on villain. I`m 18/14/4, doesn`t really matters cause villain has no read on me yet.

I have to value bet this river correct? and how much ?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($49.50)
BB ($23.90)
UTG ($90.55)
<font color="#C00000">MP ($50.40)</font>
CO ($43.65)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($87.65)</font>

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $2.

Flop: ($5.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.5</font>, MP calls $4.50.

Turn: ($14.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $11</font>, MP calls $11.

River: ($36.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">
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Old 08-26-2007, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: AA do I value bet river ?

i'd value bet. its unlikely hes playing a set this passively, usually he'll raise the turn, or donk the river. obv QJ just outdrew you. AJ/KJ, maybe JT will still pay you off, and theres always a chance hes a crazy CS with somehtign else.

i dunno whats the most ev on the river, you could shove for $32 into the $36 pot, he'll prolly call with AJ, might be able to fold though. $20 will prolly get looked up nearly always, but looks more like a vbet since your leaving yourself with like $12 behind.

i dunno, i guess i just shove, or bet ~$20 ish depending on what i feel at the time!
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: AA do I value bet river ?

He has about a psb left.

I agree with Danny that a bet w/ $10 behind is obv for value.

Can't really see him calling flop and turn and a river push w/ &lt;AA.

Even if he shouldn't call doesn't mean we shouldn't bet.

Not really sure what he could have limping and calling on a dry flop.

If you bet weakish ($12) would you call a push?
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: AA do I value bet river ?

all day
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:56 PM
CmnDwnWrkn CmnDwnWrkn is offline
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Default Re: AA do I value bet river ?

Yeah, good spot to value bet. Around $20 would be good. I don't think he checks every street with a hand that beats you. He's probably checking w/ TPTK for pot control. I would expect a set or two pair to shove the river.
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Old 08-26-2007, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: AA do I value bet river ?

I don't shove. Valuebet 18-21 looks good, obv call a shove.
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Old 08-26-2007, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: AA do I value bet river ?

Yes, I bet 20 or so.
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Old 08-26-2007, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: AA do I value bet river ?

id vbet, if he had 2pair, he would have bet somewhere in the hand, it looks like KJ/AJ.
i think a lot of weaker hands will call you here
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Old 08-26-2007, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: AA do I value bet river ?

Yeah, make it 20
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:09 AM
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Default Re: AA do I value bet river ?

Thanks for replies folks, I shoved and he showed 99 for a set of nines. He played that pretty weird. My read was also KJ, AJ. Just wanted to check if my radar was off ;(
Thought he would bet turn with a set or 2pair.

Regarding shoving, I prefered shoving to betting 20$, since I think both looks the same, so why loose 10$ vs weaker hands.
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