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Old 02-28-2006, 08:07 AM
ManYac ManYac is offline
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Default Tough pre-flop decision

NL200 FullTable

Hero on button ($300) with KK
SB ($200)
CO ($150)

No special read on players.

2 players in MP limp, CO raise 2bb ($4), Hero reraise to 5bb ($10), SB reraise to 12bb ($24), players on MP folds, CO fast call, Hero reraise 25bb ($50), SB fast allin ($200), CO fast call, Hero ??? ($150 to call)

Ok lets think, Hero is always favorite when no one have AA, CO for sure dont have AA (small PF bet and cold call raises) he maybe have low PP or Axs. Only SB may have AA, but when CO have Axs it less like SB have AA.

Odds. Hero have $150 to call, pot was $400, so 150:400 (1:2,7)

So quastion is, what Hero should do ?
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Old 02-28-2006, 08:09 AM
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Default Re: Tough pre-flop decision

I think you basically need a read to pass KK preflop. I call this without good evidence that I should pass.
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Old 02-28-2006, 08:15 AM
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Default Re: Tough pre-flop decision

Agreed, easy call unless you really know your player and can put him on the AA
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Old 02-28-2006, 09:03 AM
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Default Re: Tough pre-flop decision

Call 12bb play poker.
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Old 02-28-2006, 09:25 AM
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Default Re: Tough pre-flop decision

You have to make a bigger re-raise.
After blinds, 2 limps and the gay-raise by CO, there's $11 in the pot. Make it at least $20 to go.
After the SB re-raises and CO calls, you might as well push here hoping to shut one of them out.

As played - I hate preflop allins. Especially against 2 opponents, I fold: one of them surely got AA.
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Old 02-28-2006, 09:32 AM
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Default Re: Tough pre-flop decision

Call
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Old 02-28-2006, 10:35 AM
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Default Re: Tough pre-flop decision

how can everyone say that this is an easy call? I think this is an easy fold. One of them has AA enough times to make this an easy fold
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Old 02-28-2006, 10:38 AM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: Tough pre-flop decision

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how can everyone say that this is an easy call? I think this is an easy fold. One of them has AA enough times to make this an easy fold

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Against one villian this call is pretty clear almost every time, of course its not that clear against two, but you get greater odds and equity against two guys so I think the call is just as clear.
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Old 02-28-2006, 11:02 AM
mic83 mic83 is offline
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Default Re: Tough pre-flop decision

Against one villian this call is pretty clear almost every time, of course its not that clear against two, but you get greater odds and equity against two guys so I think the call is just as clear.

Most people dont get all there money in preflop with less then AA, KK, sometimes QQ at a full 10 handed table.

EDIT: With full stacks
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