call, raise or shove? why?

MusashiStyle · #1 08-25-2007, 10:14 AM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($31.55)
MP ($24.30)
CO ($19.65)
Button ($23.90)
SB ($43.05)
BB ($34.15)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero calls $0.25, MP raises to $1.25, 3 folds, BB calls $1, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($3.85) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $3, BB folds, Hero

castigar · #2 08-25-2007, 10:17 AM

Raise to 10. Get ready to call AI.

MusashiStyle · #3 08-25-2007, 10:19 AM

an d yeah i just realized preflop is bad

CyberianBull · #4 08-25-2007, 10:25 AM

- fold preflop
- I don't like shoving $30 into a $7 pot, but I don't mind a stern raise here making it $9 or so. It's tough to play these OOP that's why I advocate folding pre... If we did have position on him our raise would have likely granted us a free card as I suspect he would have checked the turn. But if he shoves over our flop raise (overpair?) I def call with 17 outs.

kaz2107 · #5 08-25-2007, 10:46 AM

i make it 12ish and obv call a shove. over betting on this board is pretty weak and will get u called more often imo. making it 12 looks pretty scary imo and will get u more fe which is important

DaycareInferno · #6 08-25-2007, 10:53 AM

i think i would have rather bet/3bai in this case, but i guess it dependson the villains.

Danielmk · #7 08-25-2007, 11:36 AM

I dont like the preflop play. Call the bb and then call a raise oop with 85s is just bad play.
You have a FD and 2 overcards, i will raise to 10-12$ to have FE. If he reraises AI I will instantly call.

whyzze · #8 08-25-2007, 11:41 AM

preflop is gross.

b3b all in on flop.

As played, make it 10ish and get it all in.

ShipitFMA · #9 08-25-2007, 12:47 PM

b3b is the best play by far, as played raise to 11 call a shove

monkeymaps · #10 08-25-2007, 12:56 PM

agree with others I would bet out on this flop push if villans raises you.