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I am at work , so don't have PT and actual hand....
Hero has 60BB, others cover UTG (around 20/8/x) raises to 4BB MP (around 40/15/x) calls Button (around 35/5/x) calls What is the standard 3-bet size to Maximize Value and at the same time getting to HU? When the action gets to me there are already 3$ in the pot, I got 15$ total. I am lost here.... if I push they might all fold (UTG Range could be AQ+ 99+, so he might call a push with the upper part of his range, but not sure) if I raise to 3-4$ I might get more than 1-2 callers, and be pot committed anyways..... So lost in this spot (but maybe the problem is that ZOMG I got aces I need to double up type thinking, and increasing stack by 20% should be good enough so pooosh?) |
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Raise to 20bb and RELOAD!
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raise to 5. and shove every flop.
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Is there a formula you use to get to 20BB... such as original raise x 3 + 1x raise for every caller?
(Similar to the 4BB + 1BB for every raiser??) |
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I dont have one. I just have a standard 3bet. 14bbs, so for nl25 = 3.5 and nl50 = 7. But I increase based on number of opponents and how loose they are, I would never make it less.
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raise to 5. and shove every flop. [/ QUOTE ] Doesnt this allow Villains to play near perfectly? (aside from calling the extra 4$ as 4:1 dog? Say he has a range of JJ+ and AK calling my 3-bet. At NL25 lots of people 3 bet KK+ only so he bascially knows what I have and can play accordingly ?? |
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I'd say bet pot or somewhat more, 13-16 BB. If that's more than 40% of your stack, shove it.
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raise to 5. and shove every flop. [/ QUOTE ] |
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[ QUOTE ] raise to 5. and shove every flop. [/ QUOTE ] Doesnt this allow Villains to play near perfectly? (aside from calling the extra 4$ as 4:1 dog? Say he has a range of JJ+ and AK calling my 3-bet. At NL25 lots of people 3 bet KK+ only so he bascially knows what I have and can play accordingly ?? [/ QUOTE ] Not even close. you have less than a PSB behind. Folding is the only correct play for your opponents and if they dont then you are in good shape. Looking at their stats I would expect at least one call. Any decent player is expecting you to shove every flop so you will get called by way worse hands very often. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] raise to 5. and shove every flop. [/ QUOTE ] Doesnt this allow Villains to play near perfectly? (aside from calling the extra 4$ as 4:1 dog? Say he has a range of JJ+ and AK calling my 3-bet. At NL25 lots of people 3 bet KK+ only so he bascially knows what I have and can play accordingly ?? [/ QUOTE ] Not even close. you have less than a PSB behind. Folding is the only correct play for your opponents and if they dont then you are in good shape. Looking at their stats I would expect at least one call. Any decent player is expecting you to shove every flop so you will get called by way worse hands very often. [/ QUOTE ] So would the Ev equation be something like this: Ev = 0.5 x 12BB + 0.45 x 28 BB - 0.05 x 60 BB = 15.6BB 50% of the time he folds to 3 bet 90% of the time he calls (45% of total) he will not outflop me and fold 10% of the time he calls (5% of total) he will outflop me and stack me So it seems that Ev of raising to 20BB is actually higher than EV of pushing: (90% fold, 10% I am 4:1 favorite) Ev= 0.9 x 12BB + 0.08 x 68 BB - 0.02 x 60 BB = 15.04 .... in the actual hand I was trying to do the math quickly, but as the timer ran down I just pushed and they all folded... |
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