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Old 08-23-2007, 10:00 AM
evaworcim evaworcim is offline
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Default NL100 Overpair with a flush draw, weird spot.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $84.30
UTG+1: $258.76
CO: $100
Button: $98.12
Hero: $100
BB: $35.39

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $4</font>, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $16</font>, BB folds, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($49, 4 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $20</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $47</font>, Hero...

I'm obv checking to crai and if the btn folds I turboshove but this is a weird spot...if either villain has QQ/KK/AA with a heart i'm dead. What's my best line, fold or shove?
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:46 AM
PartysOver PartysOver is offline
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Default Re: NL100 Overpair with a flush draw, weird spot.

lead flop $35/get it ai

why did you 3b/check?
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: NL100 Overpair with a flush draw, weird spot.

Don't like the flop check. As played I fold here.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: NL100 Overpair with a flush draw, weird spot.

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lead flop $35/get it ai

why did you 3b/check?

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I'm planning to crai. With the Jh i'm not that worried, if it get's checked behind, i'll fire the turn.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:20 PM
Poker_is_Hard Poker_is_Hard is offline
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Default Re: NL100 Overpair with a flush draw, weird spot.

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lead flop $35/get it ai

why did you 3b/check?

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I'm planning to crai. With the Jh i'm not that worried, if it get's checked behind, i'll fire the turn.

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Sounds like you had a plan. Execute.

Personally I don't believe your hand is strong enough to go for a flop check raise. You have a pair of Jacks. There is a flush and st8 draw, plus any over cards kill your hand. IMO you can not check this flop, you can not risk giving a free card.

If it checked around and the turn came an A,K,Q... your hand is now a bluff.

Note that if one of them has KQ with a heart you are currently behind in this hand.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: NL100 Overpair with a flush draw, weird spot.

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lead flop $35/get it ai

why did you 3b/check?

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I'm planning to crai. With the Jh i'm not that worried, if it get's checked behind, i'll fire the turn.

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this is what i thought. i agree with the poster above me. I think this is a great plan with KhKx though.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: NL100 Overpair with a flush draw, weird spot.

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lead flop $35/get it ai

why did you 3b/check?

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I'm planning to crai. With the Jh i'm not that worried, if it get's checked behind, i'll fire the turn.

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this is what i thought. i agree with the poster above me. I think this is a great plan with KhKx though.

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I'm only going to fire the turn if it bricks, but yeah i think you're right...bet calling a shove is the right play here...and ftr he had 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] so i would have got it in and had him crushed.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: NL100 Overpair with a flush draw, weird spot.

as played, i would fold.

however i would Cbet here always
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Old 08-23-2007, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: NL100 Overpair with a flush draw, weird spot.

meh i would dump here, but i would typically lead the flop.
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