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Old 08-22-2007, 10:24 PM
_Apollo_ _Apollo_ is offline
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Default JJ facing overpush on turn

Villain 22/16 and my stats are 18/13 so far.
small sample though

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero ($200.00)
MP ($150.20)
CO ($353.95)
Button ($216.60)
SB ($281.33)
BB ($205.29)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, Button calls $15.

Turn: ($49) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $193.6 (All-In)</font>, Hero has +-145$ behind

Not the most interesting hand, but I wanted to check this anyway.
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: JJ facing overpush on turn

pretty sure this is a fold
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:30 PM
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Default Re: JJ facing overpush on turn

i fold cant see him getting out of line ere
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Old 08-22-2007, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: JJ facing overpush on turn

I don't think this is an easy fold at all.

What hands would villain play this way? A 22/16 villain never has a better overpair here, and I can't see him having a set/straight after flat calling flop. The only hand that really makes sense is 65s, dunno if that's in his preflop range though.

I'd be tempted to call. Interested in what other think.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:50 AM
Ringmaster Ringmaster is offline
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Default Re: JJ facing overpush on turn

Of course this thread gets no replies, but everyone has to pitch in their 2 cents in the fold KK preflop threads... [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: JJ facing overpush on turn

Villain could have 65s/9Ts, i dont see other hands that beat us that don't raise flop. mm, more interesting that it first looks.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: JJ facing overpush on turn

af is pretty key here, right now I have no idea what he's flat calling the flop with except hearts. But if he's passive, then that opens up to all sorts of things.
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:01 PM
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Default Re: JJ facing overpush on turn

its definetely a tough spot. He either has a monster or a draw of some kind. Bluffing = He's either hoping you have aj-ak or that his massive bet can get you off you PP.
Nuts = He has a str8 but I doubt he just called this flop with a set or 2 par.

Because he really can only have a str8 in this spot, I call and pray. Odds are he is bluffing more often then holding the str8.
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: JJ facing overpush on turn

Without more of a read I think this is a fold. How aggro is he? Is he capable of shoving a draw here? If so, it's closer, but I really don't feel bad about folding.
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: JJ facing overpush on turn

make a range for villain, this is a fold
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