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08-22-2007, 04:12 PM
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200: Pwned
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> MP2 ($133) <font color="#C00000">Hero ($105.30)</font> Button ($77.85) <font color="#C00000">SB ($204.60)</font> BB ($243.15) UTG ($47) UTG+1 ($136.35) MP1 ($35) Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $6, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>. Flop: ($16) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10. Turn: ($36) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks. River: ($36) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $187.6 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $88.30 (All-In). Final Pot: $212.60 Villain seemed quite laggy when I first started and this hand came along. He later proved to be very good. Villian wins with 77. 
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#2
08-22-2007, 04:51 PM
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Re: 200: Pwned
Unless I have a major read (or if villains VPIP is like 60+ and he's on a mission to lose a stack) I pretty much always fold in this spot.
A giant push like that screams "i want value with my monster cause my slowplay didnt work! [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]" more than it is a bluff. It is a bluff occasionally, but you gotta be pretty damn accurate about picking it off for that call to be +EV. Bet/fold turn Fold riv
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#3
08-22-2007, 04:58 PM
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Re: 200: Pwned
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Unless I have a major read (or if villains VPIP is like 60+ and he's on a mission to lose a stack) I pretty much always fold in this spot. A giant push like that screams "i want value with my monster cause my slowplay didnt work! [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]" more than it is a bluff. It is a bluff occasionally, but you gotta be pretty damn accurate about picking it off for that call to be +EV. Bet/fold turn Fold riv [/ QUOTE ] I'm learning this.
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08-22-2007, 04:57 PM
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Re: 200: Pwned
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Buy in full? [/ QUOTE ] I think we can be done saying that for every hand posted where someone doesn't have 90x+. There are plenty of reasons not to buy in full. The reason I don't have 100x here is that I just started at this table. I like buying in for 50x until I see that I'm a favorite over a player or two. Then, I ramp up to their stacks.
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#7
08-22-2007, 05:13 PM
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Re: 200: Pwned
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[ QUOTE ] Buy in full? [/ QUOTE ] I think we can be done saying that for every hand posted where someone doesn't have 90x+. There are plenty of reasons not to buy in full. The reason I don't have 100x here is that I just started at this table. I like buying in for 50x until I see that I'm a favorite over a player or two. Then, I ramp up to their stacks. [/ QUOTE ] by the time you find out they are super donks, a big chunk of their change could be gone.
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#8
08-22-2007, 05:33 PM
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Re: 200: Pwned
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Buy in full? [/ QUOTE ] I think we can be done saying that for every hand posted where someone doesn't have 90x+. There are plenty of reasons not to buy in full. The reason I don't have 100x here is that I just started at this table. I like buying in for 50x until I see that I'm a favorite over a player or two. Then, I ramp up to their stacks. [/ QUOTE ] by the time you find out they are super donks, a big chunk of their change could be gone. [/ QUOTE ] I understand that. The other thing for me to consider is that I'm not as good as a lot of the regs at 200, so I'm protecting myself at the same time here. I have no reason to ramp up my stack unless I see I'm a favorite in a couple spots. In the meantime, I'm trying to get better.
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#9
08-22-2007, 10:59 PM
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Re: 200: Pwned
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Buy in full? [/ QUOTE ] I think we can be done saying that for every hand posted where someone doesn't have 90x+. There are plenty of reasons not to buy in full. The reason I don't have 100x here is that I just started at this table. I like buying in for 50x until I see that I'm a favorite over a player or two. Then, I ramp up to their stacks. [/ QUOTE ] by the time you find out they are super donks, a big chunk of their change could be gone. [/ QUOTE ] I understand that. The other thing for me to consider is that I'm not as good as a lot of the regs at 200, so I'm protecting myself at the same time here. I have no reason to ramp up my stack unless I see I'm a favorite in a couple spots. In the meantime, I'm trying to get better. [/ QUOTE ] Obviously it is not good to play 100BB if you are not comfortable with it. When I first started playing I knew making big laydowns was my weakest point so I would buy in for around 50 to make my decisions easier. I now make sure I always have 100BB but I agree it is brought up too much
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#10
08-23-2007, 03:21 AM
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Re: 200: Pwned
Don't listen to the haters. It is perfectly allright to buy in for less to familiarize yourself with a new table - especially if it is at a new level.
I am not sure if 50 BB is the best size, however. I'd buy in for less, like 35-40 BB. Be aware that you are arriving at the committment level sooner so select you bet sizes accordingly.
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