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Old 08-21-2007, 04:50 PM
hoyasaxa hoyasaxa is offline
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Default 1/2 live: who takes a shot and who gives up?


live 1/2, 100 max buy in. Effective stacks around 100.

Im OTB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
5 limpers in front, I limp too.
Flop comes 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Terrible fishy player in EP bets $8, Rocky player calls, I call

Turn is 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Early fish checks, Rock bets $10, I call, fish calls.

River 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Bad fish checks, rocky fish checks.

Who fires and how much, and who lets it go?
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Old 08-21-2007, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 live: who takes a shot and who gives up?

you became the fish by calling on the turn. fold it
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Old 08-21-2007, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 live: who takes a shot and who gives up?

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you became the fish by calling on the turn. fold it

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I have a flush and straight draw. Im pretty sure that EP fish has some kind of bad pair and the rock wouldnt bet on the turn with a draw. So theyre both live. Its $10 to call for a 35+ dollar pot, which is absolutely the correct odds to call if I think my draws are good (which i thought they were) plus implied odds from actually hitting the draw.
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:02 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 live: who takes a shot and who gives up?

preflop:

fold>>>>raise>>>>>>& gt;>>>>>>>>>call
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:19 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 live: who takes a shot and who gives up?

I think people are underestimated just how awful live $100max players are. Your draws are pretty live and likely to get paid.

I don't take a shot--rocky fish don't fold, they want to see the suckout so they can bellyache for hours about it--but everything up to that seems reasonable. I don't like steal raising vs. 5 people with 100 behind.
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:22 AM
ValarMorghulis ValarMorghulis is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 live: who takes a shot and who gives up?

fold>>>>call>>>>>>ra ise preflop. But that's boring, I'm sure limping pre isn't a horrible mistake.

I think postflop play so far is marginal but okay.

I think betting river would be awful spew.
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:28 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 live: who takes a shot and who gives up?

wtf... it's a short stacked live game. Limping pf is perfectly fine, and I think raising complete junk with 50BB stacks is a bad idea. Flop, standard. Turn, standard. River, check it down.
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:29 AM
ijustliketoplay ijustliketoplay is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 live: who takes a shot and who gives up?

definite check. you havent repped a good hand and are likely to get called down by a higher pair. if you want to bluff in this spot you need to raise the flop or the turn.

not that i think u played it bad. this is live. it plays differently. you can def call with suited two gappers on the button here.
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:38 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 live: who takes a shot and who gives up?

check and pray that somehow ur hand wins and go find a smaller limit this hand is mud
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 live: who takes a shot and who gives up?

i dont think limping is ok preflop you get in tons of terrible spots.

i think this should be a fold everytime. you said it yourself, you're shorstacked.

if a raise wouldnt be profitable here then that's another reason to fold and wait for a better spot.
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