2/4, Q-Q, turn

[JojoDiego]

I'm UTG+1 and catch 2 red queens. We're 8 handed.

Read: UTG is 15/5/2.4 over approx. 120 hands. It's primarily a stat read; I haven't seen him do much of anything worth noting.

I probably look a little laggy to him as I've been getting a lot of cards preflop in good spots. Still, I don't think he's seen me 3-bet PF before. And I don't think I've made a bunch of "OK you caught me bluffing" post-flop folds in this session.

UTG raises
Hero 3-bets
6 folds
UTG calls.

Flop (7 SB) 5d 8d 3s

UTG checks
Hero bets
UTG calls

Turn (4.5 BB) 5d 8d 3s Th

UTG checks
Hero bets
UTG raises
Hero folds

OK, so I'm figuring this dude is raising UTG with a pretty small range, and when he c/r the turn, I can't help but think he's on A-A, K-K or maybe 10-10, and I decide not to plunk 2 more big bets in there to see it.

Still, it's gnawing at me. Easy fold? Bad fold?

[cassady]

I think this is the kind of fold I wish I made more often.

Folding a big overpair here is tough, but the only thing you're ahead of that's reasonably in this guy's range is JJ.

[BostonMetro]

nh - the pot's not that big. You're only getting about 4.5-1 on a call down. I think he will checkraise the flop and lead a non-ace turn with JJo down (or queens for that matter). Those could be your 2BB for this hundred hands.

[bobhalford]

Definitely not an easy fold. Nor is it a bad one. Well played.

[Jiggymike]

Don't think he would've capped the flop with AA or KK? Not an easy fold, possibly the right fold though, hard to say without seeing more hands from this player, what if s/he raised preflop with A10 and caught 10 on turn? Even pocket 9s or a flush draw would be a reasonable play (if you call its 9.5BB for him to draw 4-1). If I don't know the player I would call down to see what kind of hands he makes plays with.

[AlienBoy]

He has pocket 10s. You had 2 outs (a queen on the river).

The pot was small, best to fold.

Having said that, I think I call in this situation too often.

AB

[James.]

you don't think he raises for a free showdown with 77, 99 or thinks he is ahead with JJ? i think the fold kind of sucks given his PF aggression. but i just don't like folding overpairs without a superb read. people do semibluff you know.

[Jiggymike]

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He has pocket 10s. You had 2 outs (a queen on the river).

The pot was small, best to fold.

Having said that, I think I call in this situation too often.

AB

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That's quite a read, putting someone exactly on a hand and drawing to one of his two outs.

I liked this post so I wanted to add more to it. He raised preflop and then just called your raise...possible hands for a standard player are anywhere between AK-AJ, KQ, 77-AA, give or take a few hands depending on how loose or how aggressive. On the turn, only four of those hands have you beat out of 12, and like I said earlier, a standard player would probably cap with AA or KK unless he is setting a rather elaborate trap, which I rarely give 2-4 players credit for (almost all will cap with AA but some will be scared of AA when they have KK). So, three hands are reasonably ahead of you then: KK, 88, and 1010. Its entirely possible that he had one of those hands but I would have called and check/called down. By folding, you gained absolutely no information on your opponent, folded what was possibly the best hand, and gave him a much better read on you (that you bet/fold on turn). I think paying the 2BB on this occassion is more than worth what you make up for it if you win and in later situations. But hey, that's just me.

[AlienBoy]

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He has pocket 10s. You had 2 outs (a queen on the river).
AB

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That's quite a read, putting someone exactly on a hand and drawing to one of his two outs.

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He's tight and not particularly aggressive.

Pocket TT is a common (if not accurate) raise UTG.

He was correct to check/call the flop with such a small overpair, and correct to raise the turn when he made a set. I don't think he'd raise anything else.

I say pocket TT is the most likely hand.

AB

[Machinehead]

There is no possible way I fold here. Call that down.