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08-21-2007, 01:23 PM
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Turn nut flush. What\'s a good line?
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.15/$0.30 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)
Hero (SB): $113.65 BB: $59.35 UTG: $22.00 CO: $31.85 BTN: $75.60 Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players) 2 folds, BTN calls $0.30, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.50</font>, BB calls $1.20, BTN calls $1.20 Flop: ($4.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $3.00 Turn: ($10.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) Pot Size: $10.50 Check, Bet ~6, bet more, or bet less? EDIT: This order is my preference. Poke fun or holes at checking please. 
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#3
08-21-2007, 01:29 PM
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Re: Turn nut flush. What\'s a good line?
IMO if he doesnt have a flush hes not calling anyway, so lets pretend he has the flush. In this case there are two lines which i think are equally good - first is to check call then bomb the river. Second is to go bet bet. I think these lines are both equally as profitable as one another because with the bet bet line the risk is that he cottons on and doesnt call the river, and the risk with the check call bomb line is that he doesnt call the river. So I guess you make about as much money from both, and if he wants to put his stack in then both lines will get you the same result.
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#4
08-21-2007, 01:30 PM
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Re: Turn nut flush. What\'s a good line?
meh I c/c and then bet river. It's fairly transparent, but I think it's the best way to trap money on the turn from marginal hands.
EDIT--- Sometimes I'll just bet low to rep a turn-blocker, hoping to get raised/called by a guy who doesn't believe me.
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#5
08-21-2007, 01:32 PM
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Re: Turn nut flush. What\'s a good line?
I'd try to bet $7.50 or more. Playing deep-stacked, we want to be able to extract as much as possible on the river, which means we have to build the pot right now. Plus, I think the villain probably has either a strong hand (set or flush) that he's not folding regardless of our bet size, or a weak pair that he is folding regardless of our bet size. See the recent bet sizing threads for more info.
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#6
08-21-2007, 01:32 PM
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Re: Turn nut flush. What\'s a good line?
Is check raising out of the question? or check donk raise?
Would a check/call, then fake blocker bet be FPS or a reasonable line.
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#7
08-21-2007, 01:40 PM
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Re: Turn nut flush. What\'s a good line?
[ QUOTE ]
I'd try to bet $7.50 or more. Playing deep-stacked, we want to be able to extract as much as possible on the river, which means we have to build the pot right now. Plus, I think the villain probably has either a strong hand (set or flush) that he's not folding regardless of our bet size, or a weak pair that he is folding regardless of our bet size. See the recent bet sizing threads for more info. [/ QUOTE ] I think with 4 to the flush showing on board, he's gonna fold anything but a flush on this board. So I guess I should be attempting to put him on a range which is difficult since I don't have a history with the villain. My thinking on checking is that if he has a busted hand, at the least he may attempt to steal the pot.
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#9
08-21-2007, 01:43 PM
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Re: Turn nut flush. What\'s a good line?
AMA would you see the edit to that post, and respond please.
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#10
08-21-2007, 01:46 PM
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Re: Turn nut flush. What\'s a good line?
I'd prefer to check here with the nuts to make him think I'm scared of the flush, and hopefully he'll bet. I'd check/call if he does bet but take a while making my decision so it looks like I have doubts whether to play on/fold. I'll also bet the river to maybe 2/3 of the pot to make it look like the river card has helped me a lot, which often works against these opponents [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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