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Old 08-21-2007, 08:37 AM
kaah kaah is offline
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Default nl200 AJ extracting max value

am I?

first

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $127.20
CO: $256.55
LE HERO: $206.60
SB: $227.55
BB: $195.00

Pre-flop: (5 players) LE HERO is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $8</font>, <font color="#cc0000">LE HERO raises to $26</font>, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($55, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">LE HERO bets $37</font>, CO folds.
Uncalled bets: $37 returned to LE HERO.

Results:
Final pot: $55

directly afterwards:
vill from hand 1 is UTG now and raises preflop

dident want to 3bet again, and AJ was a bit to loose anyway to be 3betting vs him

(same vill)
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $230.55
LE HERO: $232.85
Button: $226.55
SB: $193.00
BB: $127.20

Pre-flop: (5 players) LE HERO is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $8</font>, LE HERO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($26, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, LE HERO checks.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($26, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $20</font>, LE HERO calls, SB calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($86, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">LE HERO bets $45</font>
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:42 AM
RocktheCasbah RocktheCasbah is offline
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Default Re: nl200 AJ extracting max value

i play both hands the same. i dont see what more you can do
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:51 AM
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Default Re: nl200 AJ extracting max value

nit it up and just check along river [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:55 AM
RocktheCasbah RocktheCasbah is offline
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Default Re: nl200 AJ extracting max value

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nit it up and just check along river [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I guess theere's an argument for this 3-way. FDs have missed, and i cant see one of them going for a CR w a straight.

I often check on the end when draws miss since its unlikely im gonna be called by a worse hand, but I'd make a small bet here hoping for a call from a worse J
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:59 AM
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Default Re: nl200 AJ extracting max value

Why no bet on flop on hand #2. More than half the deck is bad for your hand.

As played turn and river is fine.
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:02 AM
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Default Re: nl200 AJ extracting max value

Why are you checking the flop?
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:07 AM
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Default Re: nl200 AJ extracting max value

the flopcheck was a spur of the moment kind of a thing. I want value and at the same time slowplay and potcontrol and I think I got this by checking flop.

You dont like it? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:12 AM
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Default Re: nl200 AJ extracting max value

I like hand #2 a lot.
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:12 AM
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Default Re: nl200 AJ extracting max value

Your hand is really vulnerable and there are tons of draws out there. So no, I dont like the check here.
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:17 AM
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Default Re: nl200 AJ extracting max value

You get value here by betting and making drawing hands to pay, not by checking. So protect your hand, there's a ton of draws out there incl. overcards. And slowplay is something you do when you have a monster and want others to make a second best hand.
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