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Old 08-21-2007, 01:56 AM
P0kerJunkie P0kerJunkie is offline
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Default Bad Play or Bad Luck w/ J-J?

Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25)
6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Squirrel God ($24.90 in chips)
Seat 2: pokerscool09 ($24.65 in chips)
Seat 3: offyou ($23.95 in chips)
Seat 4: magicmjj ($18.15 in chips)
Seat 5: boudak1 ($12.65 in chips)
offyou: posts small blind $0.10
magicmjj: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pokerscool09 [Jc Jd]
boudak1: folds
Squirrel God: folds
pokerscool09: calls $0.25
offyou: raises $0.75 to $1
magicmjj: calls $0.75
pokerscool09: raises $2 to $3
offyou: calls $2
magicmjj: folds
*** FLOP *** [7h 5c 3d]
offyou: checks
pokerscool09: bets $6
offyou: raises $14.95 to $20.95 and is all-in
pokerscool09: calls $14.95
*** TURN *** [7h 5c 3d] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [7h 5c 3d Th] [9s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
offyou: shows [Qd Qc] (a pair of Queens)
pokerscool09: mucks hand
offyou collected $46.90 from pot
pokerscool09 said, "damn- had two jacks"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $48.90 | Rake $2
Board [7h 5c 3d Th 9s]
Seat 1: Squirrel God folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: pokerscool09 (button) mucked [Jc Jd]
Seat 3: offyou (small blind) showed [Qd Qc] and won ($46.90) with a pair of Queens
Seat 4: magicmjj (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: boudak1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I'll go ahead and explain some of my thinking, though I think a lot of the hand played itself.
I had only been playing at this table for a few hands before this one, so I didn't have any strong reads on any of my opponents.
I originally limped in from the button because I had seen a lot of raising from BB.
I proceeded to check-raise to knock BB off any mediocre hand i.e. K-9 where a raise might've been pertinent if BB had suspected weakness.
I bet pretty big on the flop because an over to J-J will come after the flop around 50% of the time (Ken Warren Teaches Texas Hold 'Em) without any overs on the flop.

Any thoughts?
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:02 AM
barabe barabe is offline
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Default Re: Bad Play or Bad Luck w/ J-J?

convert your hands next time, its easier to read

im not too experienced, but i would say first of all, if you were there only a few hands, you shouldnt be assuming that there is a lot of raising going from BB. You should've raised from pre-flop more, to find out where your opponent is at. After already making that mistake, when you were already in the post-flop situation, I think the bet was okay, but the call was bad. If your opponent re-raises you taht much, adn you have no info, rather fold, then make an unknoweldgable loss...

again im unexperienced.. lets see waht the otehrs have to say
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:03 AM
f1sh4d1nner f1sh4d1nner is offline
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Default Re: Bad Play or Bad Luck w/ J-J?

I think you played it fine, dont really know any other way of avoiding all the money going in.
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:11 AM
Jw513 Jw513 is offline
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Default Re: Bad Play or Bad Luck w/ J-J?

I think bet a little less on the flop so your not so committed. Bet maybe $4.5 and fold to the shove.
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:15 AM
P0kerJunkie P0kerJunkie is offline
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Default Re: Bad Play or Bad Luck w/ J-J?

I definitely see where you're coming from fish, in regards to the all-in call, but it seemed more likely to me that villain might have had 8-8, 9-9, or 10-10, which would explain why he didn't re raise me pf. I wasn't quite committed after the $6 bet, I think, but I still thought my hand was best, as it beat all of the aforementioned hands and perhaps even an overplayed A-K who misread me. I guess I'm looking for feedback on where I missed the signs that it wasn't a strong over pair like T-T or an over played A-Ks. Would still appreciate any thoughts and feedback. Thanks!
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