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Old 08-20-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default 22: Blind vs. Blind

I've never seen villian before, but I've got over 10k mined hands of him running @ 28/20/2

My blind play definitely needs some work, and I often just dump 22 when its folded to me in the SB(is that bad?)

Whats your SOP on the flop?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, MP folds, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="red">Hero raises </font> , <font color="red">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets</font>, Hero...
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Old 08-20-2007, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: 22: Blind vs. Blind

3/6 at FT is a 1/3 structure? if so, yea i fold it preflop.

anyway you can't fold here. my SOP is c/c that flop. equity drops like a million % on a turn A/7, so then i just c/f. otherwise i likely c/c again and get confused on the river.
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Old 08-20-2007, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: 22: Blind vs. Blind

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3/6 at FT is a 1/3 structure? if so, yea i fold it preflop.

anyway you can't fold here. my SOP is c/c that flop. equity drops like a million % on a turn A/7, so then i just c/f. otherwise i likely c/c again and get confused on the river.

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FTP has 1.5/3 blinds.

Just check call down and fold when the A comes off is standard for me aswell.

EDIT: I wouldnt fold pf in this structure, but I would complete a fair amount.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:12 AM
Gurravasa Gurravasa is offline
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Default Re: 22: Blind vs. Blind

Raise any pair from SB in BvB. Call down if no A or 7 on turn and river.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: 22: Blind vs. Blind

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Raise any pair from SB in BvB.

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I disagree. I put 22 and 33 in the same category as A4o, K6o etc. Its correct to raise them against a lot of villains, but there are also a lot of villains that will make postflop hell for you if you raise, but will play nice in a smaller pot. While this villain is 28/20, if he plays blind battles like a 50/30, youre better off completing.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:50 AM
Tryptamean Tryptamean is offline
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Default Re: 22: Blind vs. Blind

I only complete in a 2/3 structure, but even then I'm more inclined to raise any 2.

IF turn and river brick off I can see a lot of tags value betting AQ, so I just call down any non broadway cards.
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:44 AM
Zach6668 Zach6668 is offline
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Default Re: 22: Blind vs. Blind

Fwiw, if the BB is going to defend quite liberally, and plays decent enough postflop, the positional disadvantage of being the SB is probably enough to make raising 22 -ev here.

I hate being the SB in bvb situations.
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:47 AM
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Default Re: 22: Blind vs. Blind

cap PF to make pot big,so u now can call it down and he will donk all the time.
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Old 08-21-2007, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: 22: Blind vs. Blind

Thanks for the responses. I had someone tell me that they like a flop c/r in this spot, but I think the passive route is better...

What do you think of my turn play? My original plan was to just c/c all brickish streets

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, MP folds, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#FF0000">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.00 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>???

Edit: I'm planning on folding to a raise
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Old 08-21-2007, 12:37 PM
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Default Re: 22: Blind vs. Blind

Those stats are me in the BB. If I popped you with an ace PF I'm inclined to call down. The only hands I would have popped you with PF only to fold to your Turn donk are 66-33.

So I think your turn play is an Ace and I'm calling to split.

I check/fold the turn if I'm you.
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