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Old 08-20-2007, 02:43 PM
CesareBorgia CesareBorgia is offline
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Default NL50 - facing a preflop all-in reraiser in the big blind

Fairly tight table. Other than the below, I don't have any further reads on BB. The three hands each are one round after the other.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

<u>Hand 1</u>

Hero ($49.88)
SB ($10.25)
BB ($8.75)
UTG ($11.75)
UTG+1 ($10)
MP1 ($53.99)
MP2 ($54.81)
MP3 ($42.98)
CO ($10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO folds.

Final Pot: $3.50

<u>Hand 2</u>

Hero ($52.75)
SB ($9.50)
BB ($8)
UTG ($9.43)
UTG+1 ($11.77)
UTG+2 ($55.01)
MP1 ($55.56)
MP2 ($7.95)
MP3 ($42.23)
CO ($9.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.7</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $7.50 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $9.95

<u>Hand 3</u>

Hero ($50.97)
SB ($11.17)
BB ($9.70)
UTG ($5.74)
UTG+1 ($11.02)
UTG+2 ($52.96)
MP1 ($55.56)
MP2 ($9.06)
MP3 ($44.70)
CO ($8.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.7</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $9.20 (All-In).

What should I do here?
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - facing a preflop all-in reraiser in the big blind

Fold.

Can't call 8.50 to win 19 with a deuce in your hand.
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - facing a preflop all-in reraiser in the big blind

This is an easy fold, your not ahead of much
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Old 08-20-2007, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - facing a preflop all-in reraiser in the big blind

No sense calling here. You can never be in good/dominant shape, and you can be crushed many ways against even a bad players shoving range.
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Old 08-20-2007, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - facing a preflop all-in reraiser in the big blind

Sure, I get it. Calling is not the correct play.

Of course, you don't see such players at the NL50 hold'em tables of Party Poker, but let's say that, purely hypothetically, BB would make the all-in raise with <u>any two cards</u> . Would that warrant a call?
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Old 08-20-2007, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - facing a preflop all-in reraiser in the big blind

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Sure, I get it. Calling is not the correct play.

Of course, you don't see such players at the NL50 hold'em tables of Party Poker, but let's say that, purely hypothetically, BB would make the all-in raise with <u>any two cards</u> . Would that warrant a call?

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yes a call is good then
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - facing a preflop all-in reraiser in the big blind

Now: what if BB would make this play with 50% of the hands? If he would, I think calling is correct, because on the average my equity on the hand would be about 49.5% which makes me call even taking the rake into account.
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - facing a preflop all-in reraiser in the big blind

[ QUOTE ]
Sure, I get it. Calling is not the correct play.

Of course, you don't see such players at the NL50 hold'em tables of Party Poker, but let's say that, purely hypothetically, BB would make the all-in raise with <u>any two cards</u> . Would that warrant a call?

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then your raise with 74o is absolutely terrible
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Old 08-21-2007, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - facing a preflop all-in reraiser in the big blind

I think you have to pick your spots with this type of player. A2os, 7 4, even being aggressive on the blind, that shouldn't justify a call.

You have position on a maniac like that, so pick a hand that you have the better percentage of a coin flip, because that's all you'd be doing.
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Old 08-21-2007, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - facing a preflop all-in reraiser in the big blind

This was not a tournament, but okay... a call in this spot is not warranted, even if BB would play this way with about 40-50% of the starting hands. Point taken.

I made my remark about the 40-50% of the starting hands, because math indicated a positive EV against this range of starting hands, but maybe you're right.
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