Trip Kings Line Check

Chicos75 · #1 08-20-2007, 12:06 PM

No Reads

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 5 folds, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks.

River: (6.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG bets, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB

Buzz-cp · #2 08-20-2007, 12:38 PM

Why are you so afraid to bet the turn? There is nothing indicating your hand is bad. On the river, there is probably not much room for a raise, as we are reopening the betting for those hands that beat us.

Buzz

derwipok · #3 08-20-2007, 12:43 PM

I would definitely bet the turn, as no one has shown any strength. Your hand is almost always the best. I think the call on the river is fine.

Sushiglutton · #4 08-20-2007, 01:02 PM

Why are u checking the turn? That's the only thing I can think about when I see this hand. Why are u checking the turn?

Smurph64 · #5 08-20-2007, 01:17 PM

*grunch from the cheap seats

I see nothing here to explain why you stop betting. This s monster hand with a ragged flop keep the pedal down and raise whatever comes at you.

Wetdog · #6 08-20-2007, 01:40 PM

You have to bet that turn. It is true that you would be offering 7.75:1 for straight or flush draws, but they may lose heart in trying to get there for one more bet. Maybe not, but you need to value bet this.

River call is fine.

Chicos75 · #7 08-20-2007, 01:47 PM

That was my worry on the turn. If they called the flop bet with a draw, they were calling a turn bet.

Fantam · #8 08-20-2007, 01:54 PM

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That was my worry on the turn. If they called the flop bet with a draw, they were calling a turn bet.

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You should not mind your opponents calling your turn bet with a draw.

Your bet is for value, because a (flush) draw will only come in about 1 out of 5 times.

So, you win more bets from the times that the draw does not complete, than you lose for the times that you are outdrawn.

Edit: If one of your opponents had a straight draw and the other had a flush draw (ie. there were 15 cards that could come to complete either draw), then your turn bet would be about breakeven EV if both of your opponents called.

However, your opponents may hold different hands, and there could be less cards that would outdraw you. Your turn bet also has some fold equity. So, overall your turn bet should be + EV.

Wetdog · #9 08-20-2007, 02:25 PM

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That was my worry on the turn. If they called the flop bet with a draw, they were calling a turn bet.

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So, by your logic, you shouldn't have bet the flop either. Actually, by extension, don't raise preflop because someone might have an ace.

I think you need to question yourself about what you expect to accomplish in poker. Sincerely, good luck.

NIX · #10 08-20-2007, 02:33 PM

I bet the turn because we are ahead so very often. Since the turn wasn't bet, I'm tempted to raise the river.