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Old 08-19-2007, 06:40 AM
luckbalks luckbalks is offline
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Default Fold Or Raise In This Spot?

Villain that went all in was 39/1/.5 . Is raising a good option here to isolate the all in player? If so how much?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $97.00
BB: $183.35
UTG: $155.20
MP: $100.00
CO: $26.50
Hero (BTN): $110.20

Preflop: Hero is dealt 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, CO calls $1.00, Hero calls $1.00, SB calls $0.50, <font color="red">BB raises to $5.00</font>, CO calls $4.00, Hero calls $4.00, SB calls $4.00

Flop: ($20) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">CO bets all-in for $21.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero ?</font>
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Old 08-19-2007, 07:02 AM
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Default Re: Fold Or Raise In This Spot?

Raise preflop, as played shove flop, i think. I want to get the monies in now while i still have nice EQ vs the ranges SB and BB are villing to continue with, especially higher FDs.
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Old 08-19-2007, 07:26 AM
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Default Re: Fold Or Raise In This Spot?

You do not need to protect your hand/equity here since CO likely already has you beat, and you are in position. You gain much more when you induce a call from QT, for example, than you do by pushing it out. If you thought there was a decent chance CO did not have you beat and was pushing TK/ a flushdraw/etc then shoving would be best as you protect your hand (and fold out said QT) - but I think CO is usually showing up with a pair &gt; fives here.

Being in position is the other reason to only call. Your hand is going to be a pretty blatant flush draw, but most people are not going to donk out a weak made hand on the turn into a dry side pot, whereas they would often bet it out if you were out of position and checked to them on the turn. Since the turn often checks around, calling still lets you maximize your hands equity but with less cost and potentially more return for you.

So yeah, I prefer a call.
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Old 08-19-2007, 07:31 AM
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Default Re: Fold Or Raise In This Spot?

What Dire said: Calling &gt;&gt; Raising &gt;&gt; Folding
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Old 08-19-2007, 07:37 AM
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Default Re: Fold Or Raise In This Spot?

Yah dire is right, nice post
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Old 08-19-2007, 04:27 PM
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Default Re: Fold Or Raise In This Spot?

why are u calling here?
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Old 08-19-2007, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: Fold Or Raise In This Spot?

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why are u calling here?

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Please refer to dires post since it was thoroughly explained already.

I agree I like a call but would not fault a raise for other reasons.....
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Old 08-19-2007, 04:49 PM
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Default Re: Fold Or Raise In This Spot?

I think calling is best, Dire summed up very nicely.
Also I like pf given that limper is a shorty. If he had a full stack, I would certainly raise.
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Old 08-19-2007, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: Fold Or Raise In This Spot?

Say I just flat call the all in bet and then one of the other players shoves all in (aka crai)?
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