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08-19-2007, 12:56 AM
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3/6 Live: Too aggressive on turn?
Playing in my usual Friday night B&M donkfest. There are one or two decent players though. Villain is one of them and I've played with him a few times and he's a thinking player (and possibly a winning one).
Villain is in BB. Folded to hero in MP1. Hero calls with QJo One or two others limp in, SB completes and BB checks. Flop: A 10 K rainbow (Broadway! woo hoo [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]) Villain checks, Hero bets, folds to Villain who calls. Turn: 10 Villain bets, Hero raises, Villain 3-bets... It's here that I meant to just call, but for some reason my hands grab chips and inadvertently cap it. Thinking that I just called, I sit patiently waiting for the dealer to deal the river. When nothing happens, I ask what's going on and realize that Villain is pondering a call. He then mucks. Did I lose an extra bet or two by capping it? Was it too aggressive? All thoughts on all streets are appreciated. 
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08-19-2007, 03:35 AM
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Re: 3/6 Live: Too aggressive on turn?
Raise preflop, limping is kinda bad.
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08-19-2007, 04:10 AM
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Re: 3/6 Live: Too aggressive on turn?
100% villain isn't a winner.
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08-19-2007, 07:38 AM
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Re: 3/6 Live: Too aggressive on turn?
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Villain is in BB. Folded to hero in MP1. Hero calls with QJo [/ QUOTE ] Just because you are playing in a petty zoo doesn't mean you need to play like a donkey. Fold that crap.
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#6
08-19-2007, 01:01 PM
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Re: 3/6 Live: Too aggressive on turn?
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[ QUOTE ] Raise preflop, limping is kinda bad. [/ QUOTE ] way wrong. Raising QJo in a donkfest loose game is just spewing chips. [/ QUOTE ] It is far from spewing chips. Folding is fine, as is raising. Open limping it is the worse of the 3 options.
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#7
08-19-2007, 01:56 PM
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Re: 3/6 Live: Too aggressive on turn?
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100% villain isn't a winner. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I busted him about an hour later. Perhaps he called me down with my runner-runner boat because he wondered what I had the last time (posted hand) I played the turn strong against him heads up. The question I have, is should I have just called the 3-bet and called down a river bet and earned another 2BB?
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#8
08-19-2007, 06:12 PM
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Re: 3/6 Live: Too aggressive on turn?
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[ QUOTE ] 100% villain isn't a winner. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I busted him about an hour later. Perhaps he called me down with my runner-runner boat because he wondered what I had the last time (posted hand) I played the turn strong against him heads up. The question I have, is should I have just called the 3-bet and called down a river bet and earned another 2BB? [/ QUOTE ] Only if you can say: A) He will fold to a 4-bet B) He will bet the river if you just call B is likely, but A wasn't. You played the hand to get the most value from QT, JT, Ax, etc., even against a "thinking" player. If he happened to have nothing, that's too bad. Also, wouldn't your line (call 3-bet and call river) only net you one more BB?
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#9
08-19-2007, 08:49 PM
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Re: 3/6 Live: Too aggressive on turn?
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Raise preflop, limping is kinda bad. [/ QUOTE ] why in the world would you want to raise with QJo in MP at a 3/6 game??? Unless you know that everyone behind you will fold, I just don't see where the value in that move... As for the caping on the turn, I think that you probably missed out on a bet but that's ok, it happens to all of us.
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#10
08-20-2007, 01:38 PM
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Re: 3/6 Live: Too aggressive on turn?
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As for the caping on the turn, I think that you probably missed out on a bet but that's ok, it happens to all of us. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, that's what I figured. He must have had a baby ace, because most people wouldn't fold a 10 here. If he was a "thinking player", he'd at least draw to the river if he held trips.
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