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Old 08-18-2007, 01:34 PM
Mask2 Mask2 is offline
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Default 25+2 turbo TT in 50/100 level

First SNG I played with him, I havent played almost any hand before this one, and he has't done any strange move till now. He is a 10/10/1.2 in 25 hands. And has a ROI of -14% in just 150 SNG, all of them PS 25+2.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1728)
UTG+1 (t1495)
MP1 (t890)
Hero (t1600)
MP3 (t1567)
CO (t1530)
Button (t1490)
SB (t1775)
BB (t1425)

Preflop: Hero is in MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="red">MP3 raises to t1567 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero???</font>

Do you think these calls could be EV+? Thanks for your comments
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Old 08-18-2007, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: 25+2 turbo TT in 50/100 level

I don't see how he overshoves a range that doesn't have you crushed, let it go here early on. I mean even though hes a loser its such a small sample we can't tell.
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Old 08-18-2007, 01:42 PM
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Default Re: 25+2 turbo TT in 50/100 level

It looks like a fold. You raised from MP so he should give you a little credit.

77-99 are the only hands you're happy to see against most opponents.
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Old 08-18-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: 25+2 turbo TT in 50/100 level

Calling 1267 into 2017 is getting roughly 1.6 to 1.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.109% 39.91% 00.20% 229610952 1147962.00 { TT }
Hand 1: 59.891% 59.69% 00.20% 343427268 1147962.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AQo+ }

Considering we're only 1.5:1 against this range. We're getting correct odds to call here, and seeing as how he is a loser in these games, he's range might be much looser than this, say:

Hand 0: 48.230% 47.53% 00.70% 463873872 6859512.00 { TT }
Hand 1: 51.770% 51.07% 00.70% 498420384 6859512.00 { 99+, AJs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo }
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Old 08-18-2007, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: 25+2 turbo TT in 50/100 level

If he is -14% I am instacalling.
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Old 08-18-2007, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: 25+2 turbo TT in 50/100 level

I usually folded these kind of hands, but in this situation when 9 players are still left and blinds are becoming big maybe a call could be EV+ trying to double up and taking a good stack for the rest of the game. And like Sykes says odds aren't bad at all.

What do you think? Thanks.
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Old 08-18-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: 25+2 turbo TT in 50/100 level

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If he is -14% I am instacalling.

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And what do you do if he is an even player or a positive ROI player?

Regards
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Old 08-18-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: 25+2 turbo TT in 50/100 level

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If he is -14% I am instacalling.

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And what do you do if he is a even player or a positive ROI player?

Regards

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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.109% 39.91% 00.20% 229610952 1147962.00 { TT }
Hand 1: 59.891% 59.69% 00.20% 343427268 1147962.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AQo+ }


if that's a push range for a winning player (which I believe it is), then it's a call based on odds.
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Old 08-18-2007, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: 25+2 turbo TT in 50/100 level

IMO everyone is a donkey unless they are a regular, and even some of them are donkeys. So I call this against pretty much everyone except players I know to be good. I don't use sharkscope, so I don't usually know ROIs but most non regs are just bad so its worth getting it in even if occasionally you will be up against a player with a tighter range.
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Old 08-18-2007, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: 25+2 turbo TT in 50/100 level

I play 25+2's too =). fold here..
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