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Old 08-17-2007, 07:19 PM
yapee yapee is offline
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Default 50NL - AA, am i ever good here?

Villian is 21/14/2 and I suppose him to be decent. Hero plays something about 22/18/2 here. The game just recently got to 3-handed, it was 5-6 handed previously.

Ultimate Bet - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 3 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $76.55
Hero (BB): $70.80
BTN: $68.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt A A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BTN raises to $1.75</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.50</font>, BTN calls $3.75

Flop: ($11.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $7.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $20.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero ?</font>

Is this anything but a set with a decent Villian? If yes then what line should Hero take from now on? Thanks in advance for any help.
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Old 08-17-2007, 07:36 PM
TS Clark TS Clark is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - AA, am i ever good here?

I would have a hard time folding here three-handed and in a HU pot, but there is of course a good chance you're beat. But I think you also get shown QQ, KK (less likely), or AJ/AQ/draw here fairly often (given how over-agro people tend to get SH and especially HUSH).

I just doubt I could make myself fold there, but if I had a real icky feeling in my gut, I guess I could. It would make me sick, though. If you folded this, you're a better player than me.
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Old 08-17-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - AA, am i ever good here?

yes, he clearly has other hand besides a set.

What to do, I'm not sure yet. His push calling range is way tighter than his flop reraise range IMO. This makes me not want to push.

We wont be certain which cards help him. I don't even want to see an Ace. This makes me want to push.

We are deep, and not really committed, but we will be if we call. This makes me want to fold.

I can't make myself fold. my equity is too high.

I think I call, c-c a non-broadway turn where he doesn't ejaculate all over the pot. I'm not thrilled about that line but I can't think of one that doesn't suck more. Maybe pretend I have AK and fold?
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - AA, am i ever good here?

I guess folding Aces in a re-raised pot 3 handed with no paired broadway card on board is just bad.
Just push.
Rocco
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:08 PM
Antinome Antinome is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - AA, am i ever good here?

pushing lets him play perfectly. If he calls with draws and AJ, fine- a lot of people will. But this guy is supposed to be decent.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - AA, am i ever good here?

Well...

At the moment i was thinking like this:

Would he just call pf w/ KK? Probably not.
Would he do this w/ QQ? Maybe, to find out where he's at, but he'll not call an AI
Would he do this w/ AK? Pf - possible, but flop - highly unlikely
JJ/TT? - he's playing like this all the time (or close to it)

An then I thought

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I guess folding Aces in a re-raised pot 3 handed with no paired broadway card on board is just bad.
Just push.

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... and so I did. I sometimes have problems to do what I think is best [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - AA, am i ever good here?

Your preflop range for him short-shorthanded on the Button is Waaaaaaay too narrow. And he calls with a large subset of that raising range thinking, heck, We're deep, I'm in position.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - AA, am i ever good here?

I don't really see many calls with my 3bets against guys like this, even in SH-SH games. The call makes me think he thinks "well let's try to make a set" (that's what I _most likely_ think when making such a call).

Of course I may be exaggerating because obv. i lost the hand.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - AA, am i ever good here?

i don't like raising and i don't like calling so fold is best i think.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:40 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - AA, am i ever good here?

I'm never folding this so c/r ai on a blank turn.

If sb can call your 3bet here with small pocket pairs, it means he thinks he has the implied odds, which means you aren't 3-betting nearly enough especially 3 handed.
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