100 NL - AA river decision

[CallMeJohn]

No reads on Villain

Hero (UTG + 1) : $100
Villain (CO) : $88

Hero is dealt [A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]

Hero raises $4, Villain calls. Everyone else folds.

Flop: J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (Pot: $9)

Hero bets $9. Villain calls. (Pot: $27)

Turn: Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero bets $25. Villain calls.

River: J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (Pot: $77)

Villain has $51 to go. What line should i be taking on the river? Jx just got there and so did the flush draw. I think every other street is standard.

Hero bets

[CazicT]

This sucks. The only thing he could have that we beat is like a busted straight draw. I'm not sure that he would call 2 PSB with a straight draw on a 2 flushed board.

But then again, we don't really know the villian.

If we check/fold, we will have put in over half our stack and then folded which means we made a mistake somewhere according to PNL.

If we check/call we're probably dead.

If we bet, doesn't seem like a worse hand would call, but you never know.

I don't know, I guess i'd check and hope he doesn't push so I could make a crying call in the name of pot odds.

FWIW, our SPR is 9.3 here which isn't all that great.

[Landlord79]

I've gotta read PNL, but in my ignorance, ck-fold to a push as played.

[xxrod17xx]

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This sucks. The only thing he could have that we beat is like a busted straight draw. I'm not sure that he would call 2 PSB with a straight draw on a 2 flushed board.

But then again, we don't really know the villian.

If we check/fold, we will have put in over half our stack and then folded which means we made a mistake somewhere according to PNL.

If we check/call we're probably dead.

If we bet, doesn't seem like a worse hand would call, but you never know.

I don't know, I guess i'd check and hope he doesn't push so I could make a crying call in the name of pot odds.

FWIW, our SPR is 9.3 here which isn't all that great.

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Its not considered a mistake when you bet when you were commited to build the pot up, if the plan when you reached the commitment threshold was to c/f to a turn/river heart or J (in this case its the best of both worlds) then you played the hand correctly even tho you put a large portion of your stack in. Pg 144-145 is an example of this. There were not any mistakes really made here because you charged your opposition for those draws.

[CazicT]

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This sucks. The only thing he could have that we beat is like a busted straight draw. I'm not sure that he would call 2 PSB with a straight draw on a 2 flushed board.

But then again, we don't really know the villian.

If we check/fold, we will have put in over half our stack and then folded which means we made a mistake somewhere according to PNL.

If we check/call we're probably dead.

If we bet, doesn't seem like a worse hand would call, but you never know.

I don't know, I guess i'd check and hope he doesn't push so I could make a crying call in the name of pot odds.

FWIW, our SPR is 9.3 here which isn't all that great.

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Its not considered a mistake when you bet when you were commited to build the pot up, if the plan when you reached the commitment threshold was to c/f to a turn/river heart or J (in this case its the best of both worlds) then you played the hand correctly even tho you put a large portion of your stack in. Pg 144-145 is an example of this. There were not any mistakes really made here because you charged your opposition for those draws.

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Thanks for the clarification, I'd thought that I was probably missing something and that it wasn't always a mistake.

[CalledDownLight]

c/f river. I don't like potting flop and turn, but thats just my style.

[BT2]

the turn bet is way too much.