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Old 08-17-2007, 07:22 AM
haarbalz haarbalz is offline
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Default JJ preflop

no accurate stats on villains

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MP ($15.55)
CO ($25)
Button ($2.75)
SB ($29.95)
Hero ($36.90)
UTG ($47.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1</font>, MP calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $6</font>, Hero ?
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Old 08-17-2007, 07:23 AM
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Default Re: JJ preflop

also, what would you do with QQ here
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:22 AM
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Default Re: JJ preflop

I fold JJ easily here, QQ is tough without any reads i'm prob reraising hoping he has AK/JJ/TT
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:01 AM
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Default Re: JJ preflop

If I had no reads on the villains, I'd fold and wait a few hands until I've assessed their ranges.
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:29 AM
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Default Re: JJ preflop

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I fold JJ easily here, QQ is tough without any reads i'm prob reraising hoping he has AK/JJ/TT

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pretty near of what I think about this hand... QQ would give some thinking... but JJ I'd fold.
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:30 AM
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Default Re: JJ preflop

I call. I call QQ too
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:32 AM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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Default Re: JJ preflop

I see soooo many ppl cold calling hands like JJ here and I think its just bad.
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:36 AM
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Default Re: JJ preflop

Awkward spot, I'm not sure what "the answer" is. I'm not crazy about any option.

If you reraise a decent amount, say to 15-18, you're really hoping for a fold b/c any call or re-raise means you're likely behind his range (and a re-raise would commit you to the pot). And maybe the fold equity is enough to make the re-raise the right play, but again not sure.

If you call, you're really just playing for set value (with incorrect odds, given the stack sizes), or to bet the flop if he checks a low card flop (but, I would expect a cb from most people most of the time).

If you fold, well, that seems kind of weak. But, actually, as I'm thinking it through, I can see a very strong argument for folding, given that raising/calling kinda suck.

[Just read above posts. I probably play QQ the same way as JJ here....whatever that is [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]]
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:36 AM
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Default Re: JJ preflop

cold calling is pretty much like playing 22-88 here IMO
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:38 AM
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I am not a fan if cold calling JJ either. I most likely 4bet the button, fold to blinds.
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