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Old 08-17-2007, 07:00 AM
michaelantoi michaelantoi is offline
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Default QQ NL50 - Gross flop

Villain is 15/7/2

Seat 1: <font color="#000000">CO</font> ($88,40)
Seat 3: <font color="#990000">Hero</font> ($89,90)
Seat 5: <font color="#000000">SB</font> ($42,20)
Seat 10: <font color="#000000">BB</font> ($46,25)

<font color="#000000">SB</font> posts small blind of $0,25
<font color="#000000">BB</font> posts big blind of $0,50

<font color="#990000">Hero</font> is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

<font color="#000000">CO</font> calls $0,50
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> raises to $2,50
<font color="#000000">SB</font> folds
<font color="#000000">BB</font> raises to $8,25
<font color="#000000">CO</font> folds
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> calls $5,75


Dealing flop 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Pot is: $17,75

<font color="#000000">BB</font> bets $11,00

Hero??
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:25 AM
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Default Re: QQ NL50 - Gross flop

Pitch it

Villain presumably has quite a tight 3-betting range and as you say this is a pretty poor flop for you to continue on
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:27 AM
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Default Re: QQ NL50 - Gross flop

Flat and shove non heart turn.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:44 AM
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Default Re: QQ NL50 - Gross flop

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Flat and shove non heart turn.

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meh that is pretty much a bluff? Id prob do the same but IDK pretty much flipping or crushed agianst anything that calls flop if we get aggressive, we are assuming his range is AK KK AA maybe JJ?
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:46 AM
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How is this a bluff? Pure value. I just don't want to shove flop giving him so much equity with AK.
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:14 AM
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Default Re: QQ NL50 - Gross flop

To hell with that nit, I doubt he even 3bets AK tbh, probably just QQ+, maybe maybe maybe JJ, and even if he does we still have crappy equity vs. his range.
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: QQ NL50 - Gross flop

gamble 1 buy-in in that spot? don't seem too strong for me.

I'd fold the flop.
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:34 AM
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How is this a bluff? Pure value. I just don't want to shove flop giving him so much equity with AK.

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what calls turn push that we are in good shape agianst? only hand we are getting value from is JJ IMO AK with a heart doesnt call turn IMO
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:36 AM
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Turn is going to be 25 into 40.
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:43 AM
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Against this Villain, I fold. The combination of his range (probably AA-JJ, AK-AQ), and of course the real possibility that he has flush cards in his hand make this a bad spot for you.
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