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Old 08-17-2007, 04:45 AM
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Default 200nl: squeeze with AK?

what do you guys think about squeezing here? i've been experimenting with this but i'm not sure how +ev it is, or if it is at all.

both are tags, 18/14 and 20/15

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<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $32</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $199 (All-In)</font>...
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:48 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: squeeze with AK?

I think raising here is your only play. Your hand is probably best and I would be 4-betting and calling a shove.

I would never EVER fold or call here
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:48 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: squeeze with AK?

I think this is fine, although I raise to 95, but it achieves the same thing.
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:50 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: squeeze with AK?

these are the perfect villains for this. the 18/14 is folding all but AA/KK and the 20/15 can be 3-betting fairly light .
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:50 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: squeeze with AK?

if i'm either villain i'm felting QQ probabaly
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:55 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: squeeze with AK?

I'd do this with QQ
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:55 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: squeeze with AK?

what do you expect to call? are you even wanting a call?

the $32 3bet overbet seems fishy but you're not getting called by a worse A, so you are crushed or racing. i think you accomplish the same by 4betting the same as you would with your typical 4betting range.

this is also depends on how the game was flowing and personal history with both players but more specifically the 3bettor. i think i like the shove though.
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:58 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: squeeze with AK?

either shove or fold i would say. at best you have a coinflip, but if someone calls, you are behind. folding AKs once in a while is not horrible play oop. shove or fold.
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:59 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: squeeze with AK?

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shove or fold.

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wtf folding is bad and 4-betting can induce a shove from AQ or worse. 4-betting is best
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Old 08-17-2007, 05:00 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: squeeze with AK?

I have a side question here, I realize this is gonna get so many flames about how it depends on the villain and whatnot ... but what is the worst hand that we can squeeze for value here? Like, what can I usually expect to get called by if I shove here or if I 4-bet a normal amount, what hands are likely to shove over me?

I'm really tired so this probably doesn't make sense but I can elaborate if needed. Or just flame me and tell me I suck, that works.
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