looking for some answers plz

osoverride · #1 08-16-2007, 07:13 PM

ok im at a new table and this is what happens. basically i was playing for 5 hours and have a few betting patter reads on a few players left in this hand (i dont want to say who) and im playing solid. nursed a short stack back to health. then this hand comes along and i just don't know what to think. did i play this bad, no matter the outcome?judging by the call i made do you think i should have opened the 2 players ranges? and if so was it an easy lay down? just tell me what you think of the hand in general and tell me what you think i should have done or what i did right. frankly i just don't know im thinking it was half donk call preflop and half brilent post flop. your thoughts?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t32443)
UTG :#A500AF(sab)/ (t197784)
UTG+1 (t42468)
MP1 :#A500AF(beb)/ (t33515)
MP2 :#A500AF(moge)/ (t117450)
MP3 :#A500AF(coke)/ (t27880)
CO :#A500AF(knight)/ (t19225)
Button (t20380)
SB :#A500AF(steve)/ (t3423)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 :#A500AF(beb)/ calls t800, 3 folds, Button raises to t1600, 1 fold, Hero calls t800, MP1 :#A500AF(beb)/ calls t800.

Flop: (t4400) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, beb checks, Button bets t5600, Hero raises to t30793, beb raises to t31865, Button calls t13130 (All-In).

Turn: (t85788) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t85788) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t85788

Results in white below: 
Hero has Jh 7d (one pair, jacks).
beb has Th Qd (high card, queen).
Button has Qs Ac (high card, ace).
Outcome: Hero wins t85788. 

p.s. im sorry for any spelling errors or anything i am not clear on.

Teddie · #2 08-16-2007, 07:28 PM

Fold pre-flop, i dont like your raise all-in, normally you will just gt called by hands that beat you.

osoverride · #3 08-16-2007, 07:39 PM

nah i should have said that it was a free roll and a lot of the players where willing to go broke with weak hands even when it was deep into it

osoverride · #4 08-16-2007, 08:16 PM

bump*

xMars · #5 08-16-2007, 08:29 PM

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nah i should have said that it was a free roll and a lot of the players where willing to go broke with weak hands even when it was deep into it

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if you say that what exactly do you want to hear?

#1 terrible hand to play
#2 you had a pair of jacks with a bad kicker. hello?

batair · #6 08-16-2007, 10:01 PM

i would of folded preflop j7 is junk on the bb plus you had a player to act behind you.

on the flop you had top pair weak kicker so i would of dumped it there to an overbet.

even if it is a freeroll you still want to try to play well and not risk all your chips in marginal spot.

pzhon · #7 08-16-2007, 11:26 PM

I think you should fold preflop. You can play this after an open minimum raise on the button, although it's not worth a lot. A minimum raise after one limper is more likely to be a better hand, you aren't getting as much of a discount to play, and you are more likely to be dominated by a hand like QJ from the limper.

On the flop, I think you would do better to check-call rather than to check-raise. The reason is that if the limper likes the flop, you want to put the minimum number of chips. By check-raising, you put all of your chips in before he indicated whether he liked the flop, as the check in front of the preflop raiser means little. I'm not sure whether a check-call is better than folding.

It is probably better not to post the results immediately, although they do have entertainment value.

choccypie · #8 08-17-2007, 06:06 AM

Fold preflop.

Freerolls are generally full of bad players, and you'll need a genuine decent hand to beat them; pair of Js with 8 kicker isn't it.

foal · #9 08-17-2007, 06:28 AM

I fold both preflop and flop.