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Old 08-16-2007, 07:02 PM
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Default 200NL KK versus push

I don't have HH. $200NL, 3 limpers and I rause to 14 OTB with KK. This could be a steal from me. Second limper calls. Others fold. Flop comes QT5 monochrome, none of my suit. I bet 25 into 35 pot and villain checkraises allin for another 150. Call or fold. Villain is semiregular.
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Old 08-16-2007, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: KK versus push

Ew,this is a tough spot. Except for KJ or J9 the board isn't drawy, so I guess you have to decide what the chances of him check-raising ai w/ a draw or something like QJ/QK/AQ are. To me those are the only really logical hands that you're beating and this is looking a lot like q10/55 to me right now.. so this is looking like a fold to me. If you think villian is capable of check-raising ai with j9/kj/qk then call but vs. a semi-regular solid player I think I might have to kick in the cowboys here.
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Old 08-16-2007, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: KK versus push

not sure why he would be in the pot with QT. I think it's a call.
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Old 08-16-2007, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: KK versus push

fold wawb etc
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Old 08-16-2007, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: KK versus push

plus bad pot odds
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: KK versus push

fold sawb
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: KK versus push

if you have seen him before fold
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Old 08-17-2007, 01:20 AM
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Default Re: KK versus push

more stats needed to give best advice but, leaning on the fold side...I guess he's got a set of threes but usually set hunters if the board isnt draw heavy(flush draws not there) wait to go allin on the turn so he might be going wild with some crazy hand like QJ, J9... I see alot of donks making these kinds of moves putting you on AK everytime you raise big preflop
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Old 08-17-2007, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: KK versus push

I think this is probably tougher because he's a semi-regular. I'd fold vs. an unknown, but given that this guy probably knows a little about your style its not hard to imagine that he's making a play with Qx, naked A high FD, etc. Flip a coin maybe?
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Old 08-17-2007, 03:38 AM
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It's either way behind 55 or a coinflip vs a drawing hand. Neither decision is a bad one IMO. Why couldn't you've had the K of spades instead? It makes it a lot easier [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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