This hand felt soo UUUUGGGGHHHHH

[Dan Bitel]

Villain here is FTPickle. He's a solid reg judging by thoughts in the reg thread and the little I've played with him. I've got my stack on this table playing big hands pretty standardly. My image should just be TAGgy I guess. The caller inbetween us the 1st time preflop is a complete fish.

Basically, its CO vs fish Button vs SB, which makes this is sick easy spot for me to squeeze. He knows this for sure. Now, this deep and with the fish still to act, he's 4betting AA/KK, like always. However, as he's a good player, and I'm 3betting light here often, I'm sure he's also 4betting light sometimes here too.

I don't like shoving preflop...but let me know if you do...I think its a tad deep for it. Is calling bad? Is it a fold or 5bet spot? Given you called preflop, how do you play it?


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $466.25
BB: $225.55
UTG: $190.00
MP: $296.95
CO: $133.85
BTN: $328.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $7.00</font>, CO calls $7.00, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $30.00</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $77.00</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $47.00

Flop: ($163) (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: ($163) (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($163) (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $70.00</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $70.00 returned to MP

Pot Size: $163.00 ($3 Rake)

[orange]

i fold pf. i really really really hate cc-ing.

[Dan Bitel]

i didnt cold call anywhere...i just called

[Nielsio]

His flop check is very conspicuous. You could bluff the turn, esp with the flushdraw.

Preflop I really really don't like. You're oop and you have AK.

[cbloom]

I hate calling the 4bet. You need to shove or fold pre.

[Unknown Soldier]

shove/fold pf for sure. sucks to fold 2/3 of the time after putting 38bbs in

depends on your image whether you should shove. I probably would

[Dan Bitel]

I get the feeling that preflop is bad...but can some1 pls EXPLAIN why

[orange]

errr thats what i meant, calling pf.

flat calling puts you in a super awkward flop situation- you hit only 1/3rd of the time, you rarely get action if/when you do hit (ie. Axx board, and there are reverse implied odds when you do hit Kxx or Axx), you'll be forced to fold many times that you don't hit.

i really dislike just calling pf. i fold or shove.

[Unknown Soldier]

didnt i? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

also if you do hit A/K QQ or less aint putting too much money in anyway

[Dan Bitel]

sure, we only hit 1/3 times. But we only need to call $47 and the pot is $116. Are those not pretty good odds?