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Old 08-15-2007, 11:32 AM
jasonfish11 jasonfish11 is offline
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Default C/R AI?

I know a lot of people recomend crai on this kind of flop but to me it seems really odd. I did it and everyone folded here but it really seems like too much of a bet.

.01/.02NL on stars

Hero $7.89 SB
villain $2.32 UTG
VIllain (2) $4.86 UTG+1

Hero has 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I complete and see a flop
K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero checks, bb checks, villain bets .06, villain(2) raises to .12, Hero bets $5, everyone folds.

Hero gets lambasted for 5 min on his horible overbet to which I say... wow Ive never met a .01/.02 pro before can I have your autograph.


Is this the right play? Everyone here seems to recomend it. Is there a time where you are so deep that a raise to $2 here would have been good? Im assuming your goal is to take the pot down right there but if they call you are probably a favorite. Is this the correct thinking? I think the concept is interesting but it really seems like a HUGE over bet. I realize that if you raise and have a blank turn you are now forced to make a decent sized donk bet or check fold. Is the CRAI used so you dont need to decided on a line for the blank turn?


edit* sorry forgot to say what I had.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: C/R AI?

I don't like overbetting THAT much. You're taking the "2p2 CRAI with a strong draw" type play a little too far here.

If you want to CR put in a pot-sized raise.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: C/R AI?

I put in a raise that is the largest raise that I think villain will call. It is obvious that even total fish think your raise was too much.

A c/r all in is effective when a pot sized raise (or a little more) is all it takes to get all-in.

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Old 08-15-2007, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: C/R AI?

Thank you
Say you raise to .60 and get a caller. What is your line with the 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] comes on the turn?
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: C/R AI?

I'd probably fire again and try to take it down but checking isn't horrible
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: C/R AI?

just bet the flop so when someone raises you then you can get it all-in.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: C/R AI?

This is madness.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: C/R AI?

I have heard from so many people on here that crai on a huge draw is a good play. They could have been [censored] with me but I was told gullible wasnt in the dictionary.
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:24 PM
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This is madness.

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Old 08-15-2007, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: C/R AI?

First thing that comes to mind is that this is a limped pot. If its a raised pot there is alot of money in there and a CRAI picks up alot of money if uncalled. I like to B/3B in this spot especially in limped pot.

Super deep at the micromicro tables you probably should of just reraised again and expect both to call, with a slight possibility that one of them pushes. Essentially your trying to get Villan 2's 250 bb's, and you want him to committ some more to this pot.
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