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Old 08-15-2007, 05:34 AM
VLV VLV is offline
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Default 25NL - NFD with 5 people in the pot, bet out?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($40.85)
Button ($11.55)
SB ($8.50)
Hero ($26.90)
UTG ($23.35)
MP ($14.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, UTG calls $1.75, MP calls $1.75, CO calls $1.75, SB calls $1.75.

Flop: ($10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero ???

Umm I did have stats on some people but I don't think its that important at this point. UTG and SB were reasonably tight but had a low PF raise. CO and MP were pretty loose.

Do I bet out here? And if so how much?
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Old 08-15-2007, 05:38 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - NFD with 5 people in the pot, bet out?

Well with this many people you are up against an overpair and they are likely to bet out or raise your bet. So I would check, as getting raised would make your draw unprofitable.
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Old 08-15-2007, 05:43 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - NFD with 5 people in the pot, bet out?

i'd love being in a multi-way pot with this kind of draw and want to get some money in early. as you're second to act you may get raised, but if you bet something like $4-5 hopefully you'll get a couple of caller before you're raised (if you are) if you then get raised you can assess your implied odds from there and stand to win a much bigger pot than if it checks round.
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:32 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - NFD with 5 people in the pot, bet out?

I would bet the flop for sure. About 2/3 pot to 4/5 pot. You make take the pot down down right now, which is fine imo.

If i get raised in this, i 3bet allin. Villain gotta have a strong hand to call since you showed much strength on every street. The only hand in his range thats really crushing you is 22 for a boat. Against other hads you have enough equity imo.

btw, I'm new to posting on 2+2. Do I have to introduce myself anywhere?
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:44 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - NFD with 5 people in the pot, bet out?

I dont like raising preflop from the BB with this garbage hand that you are going to have to give up a very large percent of the time. And at a table where the whole damn table calls, you dont want to play this hand OOP.

As played, if I got into this mess, I would lead for $7.50, and call a push hoping 22 is not out. Your 40% against a mid pair and still 37% if 2 villans have mid pairs and both sack off. Your obv drawing damn near dead to 22.

Please check this hand in the BB. IMO
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Old 08-15-2007, 09:00 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - NFD with 5 people in the pot, bet out?

FD + 2 overcards = monster

Bet this out for sure.
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Old 08-15-2007, 09:59 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - NFD with 5 people in the pot, bet out?

Someone could have an ace with a better kicker or a pair higher than your 6. I wouldnt count the overcards as full outs.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - NFD with 5 people in the pot, bet out?

In response to Perk76, the reason I led out PF is that I was hoping to win this pot right there. No way was I expecting more than 1 caller, letter alone 5. Even though I had a few loose people the there weren't many multiway pots being played.

I guess opinion is split between bet and check. I'll let you know how it turned out after a few more posts.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:29 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - NFD with 5 people in the pot, bet out?

just check behind pre-flop - all you have is a draw in which you'll be OOP for the rest of the hand
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - NFD with 5 people in the pot, bet out?

First of all, why on earth are you raising here? You have a speculative hand, and you get to see a free flop... TAKE IT. Don't give UTG a chance to limp-reraise, if that's what he intended.

On the flop, I guess you have to bet here, but I don't like it. You're going to get called... someone out there has an overpair. I will tend to check in these situations, because I want all 5 players in the pot in case I hit my flush. If only someone with an overpair calls, they are likely to drop it if the third of a suit comes out. If someone with a smaller flush draw is in, on the other hand, they will pay you off. I don't want to make the smaller flush draws fold.
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