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Old 08-14-2007, 01:33 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default A combo draw sees a turn

Villain is a meow chow TAG. Yeah, preflop is iffy...so what...deal with it!

I want to know about flop and more importantly, turn!


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SB: $353.20
Hero (BB): $372.00
UTG: $217.00
MP: $237.75
CO: $193.95
BTN: $169.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7.00</font>, 4 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $22.00</font>, UTG calls $15.00

Flop: ($45) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $30.00</font>, UTG calls $30.00

Turn: ($105) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
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Old 08-14-2007, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: A combo draw sees a turn

Openshove flop?
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Old 08-14-2007, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: A combo draw sees a turn

c/rai
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Old 08-14-2007, 01:56 PM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default Re: A combo draw sees a turn

What did you have in that hand we played the other day, where I tried to check it down, but you bet the river?
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Old 08-14-2007, 01:56 PM
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c/rai

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on flop or turn?

If on turn, for value of for FEQ?
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: A combo draw sees a turn

open shove turn
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:04 PM
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If you are going to bet the flop I think overbetting the pot slightly is much better. That will increase your FE and at the same time you are pretty much committed on the turn if he calls.

But I think c/r ai on flop is best. As played I would propably just bet pot on the turn.
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:04 PM
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What are we putting villain on guys?
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:07 PM
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If you are going to bet the flop I think overbetting the pot slightly is much better. That will increase your FE and at the same time you are pretty much committed on the turn if he calls.

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I think this line is pretty terrible because I can't think of a single hand that WANTS a call that I would play this way.

By the way, with 12 outs to the nuts, you're committed no matter if he shoves no matter how much you bet. You're probably committed if you check and he just shoves.
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:10 PM
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What are we putting villain on guys?

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AQ, KQ, AJ, T9, lower flush draws, 88-TT, AK, and to a lesser degree 44,JJ, QJ and QQ.
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