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Old 08-14-2007, 08:12 AM
mack848 mack848 is offline
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Default NL200 - Turn push with a big draw

Villain is one of the better multi-tabling TAG regs - 14/10/4.

I often raise this flop, but I had been pretty active and felt that he could put me on a draw and re-raise me with an overpair.

I turn an OESD to go with my FD, but only have one card to come. I am pretty sure I won't get paid off if a heart comes on the river - and possibly not if the str8 comes in; so I don't think a call is +EV. I thought that a raise to push out a 1 pair hand is best. He only has $150 left and a PSB is $109, so I pushed. If he calls, I have 9-18 outs.

I don't know if this turn push is standard, OK, or terrible.

What hands would a good TAG reg call a turn push with here?



Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

UTG+1: $204.50
Hero (MP3): $336.20


Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to $7.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $7.00, 4 folds

Flop: ($17) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets $14.00</font>, Hero calls $14.00

Turn: ($45) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets $32.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $315.20</font>
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:20 AM
oli1980 oli1980 is offline
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Default Re: NL200 - Turn push with a big draw

I like your way of thinking. But he will call with his overpair, you know that? So you got 12 outs on one card. Do the math...
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:24 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - Turn push with a big draw

I like it, it looks like u have 2 pair and if he is a good player he should find fold here often enough to make it profitable.

But against these nits I would prefer if u almost min raised turn and shoved any river.
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:26 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - Turn push with a big draw

Look at his stats and tell me what he raises UTG+1: -&gt;QQ+
Maybe he will fold because he thinks you have a straight but i doubt it.
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:32 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - Turn push with a big draw

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But against these nits I would prefer if u almost min raised turn and shoved any river.

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I like using this line, but i think villain needs to be a little deeper in this particular hand.
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Old 08-14-2007, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: NL200 - Turn push with a big draw

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Look at his stats and tell me what he raises UTG+1: -&gt;QQ+
Maybe he will fold because he thinks you have a straight but i doubt it.

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This Villain is not a nit, he raises 10% preflop. I raise 9% and from UTG+1 I pop it with most 66+, AJs+, AQo+ (&amp; occasionally 22-55 , KQs etc).

I didn't think he would fold because he puts me on a made str8. I thought he might fold JJ-QQ because I can have 88, 77, 33, 56s, 89s, TJs, 87s etc here. If he has AA or KK and won't fold, I have 15 outs. My line is not atypical of how I play a set - (I don't always raise the flop, as it is very unlikely that he has a heart or str8 draw too). The better regs in the 200 game don't stack off with an overpair all that often.
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Old 08-14-2007, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: NL200 - Turn push with a big draw

if you both know each other, no way does he fold anything good here.

your hand looks like a FD + Pair. Unless you've ever played a straight or set that fast.
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