KK: tough spot with A high flop in a multiway pot

usha · #1 08-13-2007, 06:55 PM

This is a early 3$ turbo, villain betting is 40/0 over ~5 hands, so no real read. I know many of you will say 3bet him, but villain raised 7BB PF, which is pretty weird, so I just decided to stack him on flop, but then 2 more joined us and an A came on flop.

I was really more afraid to call because of the other 2 after me. Do you play this any differently except for 3bet PF? Do you act differently if you are HU?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG+1 (t1510)
UTG+2 (t1470)
MP1 (t1470)
MP2 (t1250)
MP3 (t1470)
Hero (t1860)
Button (t1160)
SB (t1470)
BB (t1840)
UTG (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP2 raises to t210, 1 fold, Hero calls t210, Button calls t210, 1 fold, BB calls t180.

Flop: (t855) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t855) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets t1040 (All-In), Hero folds

splashpot · #2 08-13-2007, 07:02 PM

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I know many of you will say 3bet him, but villain raised 7BB PF, which is pretty weird, so I just decided to stack him on flop

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I don't understand this decision. But yea, check/fold an A high multiway pot.

WCGRider · #3 08-13-2007, 07:03 PM

uh, call is retarded?

please raise preflop.

J-P · #4 08-13-2007, 07:03 PM

3bet pf and try to get it in if possible.

As played, nothing you can do except c/f with 4 to the flop.

ymu · #5 08-13-2007, 07:15 PM

You have to reraise preflop, which here means pushing because a sensible raise is >30% of your stack.

At this buy-in players are generally so loose, don't understand bet sizing or pot odds or what constitutes a good hand in different situations - you must make the most of your good hands because they will suck out a lot (especially when it's 3 or 4 villains against just one you a lot of the time). Get the maximum chips in preflop when you're miles ahead and reduce the chances of busting by reducing the number of villains seeing the flop.

sippin_criss · #6 08-13-2007, 07:20 PM

shove pf he wont fold anything

sonneti · #7 08-13-2007, 07:27 PM

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shove pf he wont fold anything

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usha · #8 08-13-2007, 07:38 PM

Indeed I played it bad PF.

Still didn't get an answer on this
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Do you play this any differently except for 3bet PF? Do you act differently if you are HU?

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Suppose you called PF here and you are going HU to the flop.
How do you play this flop after villain checks flop?
Suppose you checked flop, how do you play turn? c/c,c/f,c/r?

Probably basic, but I'm not 100% sure what is opt game here.
My thinking is that I should check this flop to induce bluffs from weaker hands on turn, which I'm going to shove over.

What do you think?

sixfour · #9 08-13-2007, 07:44 PM

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shove pf he wont fold anything

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ymu · #10 08-13-2007, 07:54 PM

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Indeed I played it bad PF.

Still didn't get an answer on this
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Do you play this any differently except for 3bet PF? Do you act differently if you are HU?

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Suppose you called PF here and you are going HU to the flop.
How do you play this flop after villain checks flop?
Suppose you checked flop, how do you play turn? c/c,c/f,c/r?

Probably basic, but I'm not 100% sure what is opt game here.
My thinking is that I should check this flop to induce bluffs from weaker hands on turn, which I'm going to shove over.

What do you think?

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Just fold. 4 opponents and you have one underpair. c/f c/f c/f