50NL, is flop standard?

skiller3 · #1 08-13-2007, 06:21 PM

Hello,
I'm a lag player 32/28/4 who has ground his way up from 10NL through 25NL and is now playing 50NL. My loose and aggressive image of course induces action. The villain here is 14/9.5 over 63 hands. Is bet/shoving flop standard or should I have check-raised? Keep in mind that I lead a massive % of pots I 3-bet preflop regardless of texture or content anyways.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($61.85)
Hero ($110.35)
UTG ($49.50)
MP ($73.75)
Button ($77.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, Button raises to $2.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $8, UTG folds, Button calls $5.25.

Flop: ($16.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $11, Button raises to $48.75, Hero raises to $113.85 (All-In), Button calls $21.25 (All-In).

Turn: ($156.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($156.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $156.25

filsteal · #2 08-13-2007, 06:33 PM

Well you obviously don't have much FE on the 3-bet since villain's getting like 6-1 at that point.

Villain's nitty stats concern me a little here, but I think I play it the same.

ama0330 · #3 08-13-2007, 06:56 PM

Lol dude, hes 14/9... I think he miiiight just have a hand here [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

fold the flop

ama0330 · #4 08-13-2007, 06:57 PM

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Well you obviously don't have much FE on the 3-bet since villain's getting like 6-1 at that point.

Villain's nitty stats concern me a little here, but I think I play it the same.

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stacking off on the flop with 9 clean outs in a 3 bet pot is not a good idea.

filsteal · #5 08-13-2007, 07:06 PM

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Well you obviously don't have much FE on the 3-bet since villain's getting like 6-1 at that point.

Villain's nitty stats concern me a little here, but I think I play it the same.

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stacking off on the flop with 9 clean outs in a 3 bet pot is not a good idea.

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I don't think this is a fair assessment. Sure, sometimes we have 9 outs. Sometimes we have 15.

Even if our extra 6 outs are only good occasionally, we still have enough equity to get it in here.

Edit: I mean, cripes, assuming we have no FE on the shove, we still only need 38% equity. Surely we have that much, no?

maciczka · #6 08-13-2007, 07:15 PM

I put villain on overpair considering his play. so we have about 10 outs. do the math for Yourself.

filsteal · #7 08-13-2007, 07:20 PM

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I put villain on overpair considering his play. so we have about 10 outs. do the math for Yourself.

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If villain's range is JJ+, then we have 9 outs half the time, 12 outs 1/6 of the time, and 15 outs 1/3 of the time. That's enough equity to get it AI.

Everyone's noticing that villain only has $21 left after his raise, right?