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Old 08-13-2007, 09:39 AM
Beastmaster Beastmaster is offline
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Default Absolute 2/4-3/6 game BBJ jackpot rake/ beatable?

Was looking over my stats for the last couple of months and I'm in the red at 2/4 and 3/6. Not by much and I just hit a 100bb downswing which probably doesn't help. Wondering if the 2/4 and 3/6 games are beatable at BBJ tables? The games are tough enough but with the extra rake is it pretty unbeatable?

Also- have been experimenting more with defending my BB and becoming more of a showdown monkey which could have something to do with my red numbers in PT.
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Old 08-13-2007, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: Absolute 2/4-3/6 game BBJ jackpot rake/ beatable?

The rake there is already ridiculously high without the BBJ. I'm sure the games are beatable, but I don't think I'd play there.
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: Absolute 2/4-3/6 game BBJ jackpot rake/ beatable?

I know it has been posted before, not sure how recent?
Could someone provide info on Absolute's rake compared to other sites at the 2/4-5/10 level. How big of an impact on WR does it have compared to other sites?

I think most know the rake is a little higher, not sure how much higher than other sites? Most play for bonus/rb/pts for cash etc and hope to breakeven or win a little if they're multitabling.
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Old 08-13-2007, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: Absolute 2/4-3/6 game BBJ jackpot rake/ beatable?

That was me for a long time...they just don't have as much bonus to justify it any more...plus they take fees off of rb now...plus they are generally shady and if I can play at a reputable site and it doesn't hurt the bottom line that much I'm gonna do it. Ok, sorry, you probably know all that, end of rant [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

FWIW here's the rake comparison:

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$2/$4 to $100/$200
players $20 Pot $40 Pot $70 Pot
2-3 $0.50 $0.50 -
4-5 $1.00 $1.00 -
6-10 $1.00 $1.00 $1.00


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$2.00/$4.00 2 $0.25 for each $5.00 in pot, maximum $1.00
$2.00/$4.00 3 to 4 $0.25 for each $5.00 in pot, maximum $2.00
$2.00/$4.00 5 or more $0.25 for each $5.00 in pot, maximum $3.00
$3.00/$6.00 2 $0.50 for each $10.00 in pot, maximum $1.00
$3.00/$6.00 3 to 4 $0.50 for each $10.00 in pot, maximum $2.00
$3.00/$6.00 5 or more $0.50 for each $10.00 in pot, maximum $3.00
$5.00/$10.00 2 $1.00 for each $20.00 in pot, maximum $1.00
$5.00/$10.00 3 to 4 $1.00 for each $20.00 in pot, maximum $2.00
$5.00/$10.00 5 or more $1.00 for each $20.00 in pot, maximum $3.00


Obviously the main differences are that just about every hand at 2/4,3/6 is raked and you get hit for the extra dollar on big pots 5 handed.
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Old 08-13-2007, 12:44 PM
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Default Re: Absolute 2/4-3/6 game BBJ jackpot rake/ beatable?

The way to beat the BBJ game is to hit the jackpot, like Miles. Easy-peasy...
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: Absolute 2/4-3/6 game BBJ jackpot rake/ beatable?

yeah, that would be nice...
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Old 08-13-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: Absolute 2/4-3/6 game BBJ jackpot rake/ beatable?

westley/ilp did some calculations.

3-6 and below, forget about it

5-10, it still hurts, but that's where I start playing them, once the BBJ is at about 150 or so
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Old 08-13-2007, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: Absolute 2/4-3/6 game BBJ jackpot rake/ beatable?

Hip-thanks, yeah I pretty much assumed it was unbeatable at those levels (at least for a decent WR anyways)

Wouldn't be bad if the other tables weren't filled with 2+2ers LOL
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