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Old 08-13-2007, 05:26 AM
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Default 400nl : TPNK+FD on turn oop

villain is 30/14 over 35 hands. no real reads on his postflop play yet.

I found this spot to be pretty awkward given stack sizes. what is the best way to proceed here? also, do you prefer a different line on the flop or is this bet (and size) okay?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $568.60
BB: $80.00
Hero (UTG): $413.50
MP: $313.99
CO: $400.00
BTN: $394.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $14.00</font>, MP calls $14.00, CO calls $14.00, 2 folds, BB calls $10.00

Flop: ($58) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $40.00</font>, MP calls $40.00, 2 folds

Turn: ($138) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero?
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:43 AM
The Velour Fog The Velour Fog is offline
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Default Re: 400nl : TPNK+FD on turn oop

i tend to c/c here alot, not sure if its the best.
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Old 08-13-2007, 06:49 AM
danjohncochane danjohncochane is offline
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Default Re: 400nl : TPNK+FD on turn oop

Yup not sure id be betting that into 3 people. As played i'd prob c/f the turn. Is that too nitty?
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:26 AM
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Default Re: 400nl : TPNK+FD on turn oop

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Yup not sure id be betting that into 3 people. As played i'd prob c/f the turn. Is that too nitty?

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Why would you fold to a medium-sized bet on the turn?

I would check-call and probably check-fold a blank river and lead or check-raise depending on how many players that are left on the river.
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Old 08-13-2007, 09:03 AM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: 400nl : TPNK+FD on turn oop

check/call probably.
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Old 08-13-2007, 09:20 AM
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Default Re: 400nl : TPNK+FD on turn oop

cc is standard here imo
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: 400nl : TPNK+FD on turn oop

WTF is the point of betting that flop?
I need to hear OP answer this.
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Old 08-13-2007, 12:44 PM
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Default Re: 400nl : TPNK+FD on turn oop

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WTF is the point of betting that flop?
I need to hear OP answer this.

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tbh i dont know. i usually raise Axs from any position pf, but i can't remember a time in the last 200k hands ive played that ive raised Axs up front pf and had 3 callers. i actually kind of just froze up when i saw the flop. figured it was pretty dry and i could just bet/fold pretty comfortably. but as i said, suggestions on a better line are welcome. if you prefer a check i assume its to c/f?
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Old 08-13-2007, 12:56 PM
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tbh i dont know. i usually raise Axs from any position pf, but i can't remember a time in the last 200k hands ive played that ive raised Axs up front pf and had 3 callers. i actually kind of just froze up when i saw the flop. figured it was pretty dry and i could just bet/fold pretty comfortably. but as i said, suggestions on a better line are welcome. if you prefer a check i assume its to c/f?

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Raising pf is fine.
The flop is what I'm asking about.

And no, check is not for c/f. It's because we are wa/wb. Betting gets worse hands to fold and gives more money to better hands. It's the absolute worst of any option. What hand exactly are we getting value from on a flop that is as dry as a dead dingo's donger? And what better hands will fold? And if you are betting/raising for info, you need to re-evaluate that play cuz it sux like ass through a straw.
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:01 PM
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tbh i dont know. i usually raise Axs from any position pf, but i can't remember a time in the last 200k hands ive played that ive raised Axs up front pf and had 3 callers. i actually kind of just froze up when i saw the flop. figured it was pretty dry and i could just bet/fold pretty comfortably. but as i said, suggestions on a better line are welcome. if you prefer a check i assume its to c/f?

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Raising pf is fine.
The flop is what I'm asking about.

And no, check is not for c/f. It's because we are wa/wb. Betting gets worse hands to fold and gives more money to better hands. It's the absolute worst of any option. What hand exactly are we getting value from? And what better hands will fold? And if you are betting/raising for info, you need to re-evaluate that play cuz it sux like ass through a straw.

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well i didnt like my play in general in this hand, thus why i posted it. assuming i do check, how am i responding to a psb, 2/3psb, 1/2psb? or are you pretty much just saying that i would be better off checking and see what happens, and act accordingly based on the bet size and any reads on the bettor?
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