$16 Stars: 10 10 against regular

BeattysLuck · #1 08-13-2007, 02:16 AM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP2 (t1075)
CO (t795)
Button (t2950)
Hero (t1335)
BB (t4160)
UTG (t1315)
MP1 (t1870)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T

, T

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1 fold</font>, MP1 raises to t450</font>, 3 folds</font>, Hero ???

Villian is a regular. He pushed last hand so it looks here like 3x pf is more for value. I feel like I should be calling if he pushed all in but not over his raise. what do you all think?

Yossarian147 · #2 08-13-2007, 02:33 AM

it's possible his return to a more normal raise amount is because his last push put him over 10bb. I would shove. You're pretty short stacked yourself and have a premium hand. If you're vs 2 overcards you have the best of it considering the blind money. If he shows you JJ+, gg.

RexWoo · #3 08-13-2007, 04:13 AM

It's a fold if you have him on a veruy tight range.

Push against your regular $16 player, though.

Tooorero86 · #4 08-13-2007, 05:08 AM

very-easy-super-standart push against regular...

Luisgallo · #5 08-13-2007, 07:06 AM

Instapush.

Josem · #6 08-13-2007, 07:59 AM

depends on what regular's opening and calling range is there.

of the pocket pairs, i can't imagine a regular (and by regular, i mean a competent player who is a long term winner) opening a much wider range than 88+ there at the most.... i certainly wouldn't.

all the other hands are AJ+ and KQ.

on those ranges, although I haven't done the ICM math, i think we're in big trouble.

I think the people who are saying to push are putting an UTG+1 on a far wider range than is reasonable.

Finnisher · #7 08-13-2007, 08:00 AM

What do you think his range is? You don't have any FE, he opened 3x with a 12bb stack into big stack's bb from ep/mp. Reads are pretty important.

Insty · #8 08-13-2007, 08:10 AM

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You are not ahead of his range, you're looking at 50/50 at best with no FE.
This doesn't seem like a good spot to me.

BeattysLuck · #9 08-13-2007, 11:45 AM

I dont think he would be opening up here with anything less than AQ+ 99+, if hes even opening up that loose. With that particular read, Id say it is a fold but im surprised to see others say it is an intapush against a regular. Am i missing something here? Are regulars opening up with 1/5 of their stack with a wide enough range that 10 10 is going to be ahead?

typically · #10 08-13-2007, 12:00 PM

I like folding this; not much there that doesn't have you dominated or is a coinflip, and like Insty says, zero FE. Let the 75 go [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]