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Old 08-12-2007, 02:28 PM
SilentNoise SilentNoise is offline
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Default I underrepresent my hand, now do i have to call down?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $201.50
BB: $192.45
UTG: $149.30
Hero (BTN): $214.00

Reads: <font color="blue">readless. i assume hes fishy because he hasn't got the max infront of him.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $6.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18.00</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $12.00

Flop: ($39) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($39) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $16.00</font>, Hero calls $16.00

River: ($71) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $42.00</font> hero??

I normally call down in these spots all the time. But it must be pretty obvious to him that i have a hand like what i have. He must also know that the K pairing on the river is a bad bluffing card. So what hand could he betting here? What does he think im calling the turn with? Why would he think im calling the turn with JJ/QQ but folding the river? So why would he ever bluff here?
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Old 08-12-2007, 02:30 PM
neverforgetlol neverforgetlol is offline
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Default Re: I underrepresent my hand, now do i have to call down?

I don't think your hand is underrepped, it looks like just what it is, a pair worried about an overcard. I'd fold.
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Old 08-12-2007, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: I underrepresent my hand, now do i have to call down?

I'd think about possibly minraising the turn.

There are a lot of cards that could hurt us on the river and ideally we'd like him to check it back to us and us show down a winner.
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Old 08-12-2007, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: I underrepresent my hand, now do i have to call down?

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I'd think about possibly minraising the turn.

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What real hands do you minraise the turn with? Dont you think only minraising the turn with marginal hands that you want a free showdown with a pretty exploitable because people can just 3bet shove with their draws or maybe even air?
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Old 08-12-2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: I underrepresent my hand, now do i have to call down?

Do you think the average fish is going to shove over a turn raise with draws?

I don't play NL200 so I could be wrong, but I haven't seen that much aggression at NL100.
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Old 08-12-2007, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: I underrepresent my hand, now do i have to call down?

"But it must be pretty obvious to him that i have a hand like what i have."

I agree. You only need to be right like just under 30% of the time, but I still think it's a fold. I don't think he has xT, QJ or total air here that often.
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