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Old 08-12-2007, 02:20 PM
JJack JJack is offline
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Default how to play this QQ?

CO: 20.16/8.06/2.24 - 110 hands

0.25/0.50 Fixed-Limit Hold'em <font color="blue">(10 handed)</font>
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.7 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="grey">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="red">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="red">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="grey">BU folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero caps</font>, <font color="grey">BB folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (25.0 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
<font color="red">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="grey">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="red">CO raises</font>, <font color="red">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="grey">MP1 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="red">CO caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

<ul type="square">Here i probably make big mistake
after CO raise i should just call cus i was PF capper and he dont afraid my bet at flop
I think i should just call flop and protect this HUGE pot at turn using my relative possition to flop raiser with plan c/r turn
But i also dont know if c/r at turn can be good cus i dont know if im ahead and my C/R can protect only hands with very weak draws like pocet pair which has 2 out to improve to set.

Next problem is what should i do when i c/r turn and flop capper makes 3bet?
Then i dont have odds to call this turn (2 out - when i just call flop raise) SO math says fold , but pot says Im so HUGE make cry call down [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img][/list]Turn: (21.0 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="red">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (25.0 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="red">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="grey">2 folds</font>.

Final Pot: 27.0 BB
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Old 08-12-2007, 02:36 PM
LoNeLyAcEs LoNeLyAcEs is offline
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Default Re: how to play this QQ?

i'd call the flop because you can't protect it here, value betting is second option here imho, because you're still vulnurable to overcards and i'd wait the turn for protection + value, in this huge pot i'd also call down, even though CO often shows AA,KK or TT but may also have JJ...

with KK or AA i cap it on flop and call down...
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Old 08-12-2007, 05:03 PM
jeanbaptiste36 jeanbaptiste36 is offline
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Default Re: how to play this QQ?

Check/call on the flop. He is rather tight with his raises.
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Old 08-12-2007, 05:09 PM
KitCloudkicker KitCloudkicker is offline
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Default Re: how to play this QQ?

way too much money put in here w/ a 2nd or 3rd best hand.

you realize you only beat JJ, right?

i would think about taking a very passive line here after your flop lead. its not like you can protect your hand anyway.
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Old 08-12-2007, 05:17 PM
TarHeel100 TarHeel100 is offline
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Default Re: how to play this QQ?

Unless you have a specific read that Villain likes to raise for free cards, I'm just calling his flop raise.

If Villain will make a free card play, I think the flop 3-bet is fine because your equity should be very large even if you can't protect your hand.
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Old 08-13-2007, 10:03 AM
kyzerjose kyzerjose is offline
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Default Re: how to play this QQ?

Given the pF frenzy your choices are limited. Every reasonable draw is priced in.
If you want to get to show down, more power to you, so take a passive line and lose as little as possible.
Three betting the flop is just spewing. What hand caps pF then tries for a free card in a 25SB pot? None.
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