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Old 08-12-2007, 03:37 AM
fitnessfreak fitnessfreak is offline
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Default 400nl - turned top2 on flush board v TAG

Villain is 21/16/3 over 550 datamined hands. seems fairly solid. havent really seen him get out of line.

is the turn here an easy fold? what sort of range do you give him?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $423.50
BB: $504.50
UTG: $102.50
MP: $783.26
CO: $348.18
Hero (BTN): $440.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $4.00, MP calls $4.00, CO calls $4.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $28.00</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $24.00, CO folds

Flop: ($70) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $50.00</font>, MP calls $50.00

Turn: ($170) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $127.00</font>, Hero?
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Old 08-12-2007, 04:07 AM
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Default Re: 400nl - turned top2 on flush board v TAG

as much as i hate spots like this, I think its an easy fold..
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Old 08-12-2007, 08:40 AM
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Default Re: 400nl - turned top2 on flush board v TAG

wtf does a 21/16/3 flat call that flop with ??
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Old 08-12-2007, 09:35 AM
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Default Re: 400nl - turned top2 on flush board v TAG

Im calling here, can't see doing much else
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Old 08-12-2007, 09:46 AM
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Default Re: 400nl - turned top2 on flush board v TAG

well imo i think i should have just folded the turn. i dont think villain with these stats has worse than top 2 much at all.

however, another interesting situation arose on the river. what do you think of bluff shoving in this spot? i have 236 left.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $423.50
BB: $504.50
UTG: $102.50
MP: $783.26
CO: $348.18
Hero (BTN): $440.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $4.00, MP calls $4.00, CO calls $4.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $28.00</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $24.00, CO folds

Flop: ($70) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $50.00</font>, MP calls $50.00

Turn: ($170) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $127.00</font>, Hero calls $127.00

River: ($424) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero?
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Old 08-12-2007, 09:48 AM
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Default Re: 400nl - turned top2 on flush board v TAG

check and win
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Old 08-12-2007, 11:31 AM
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Default Re: 400nl - turned top2 on flush board v TAG

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what do you think of bluff shoving in this spot? i have 236 left

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It depends on whether you think that this is how he'd play 22/99/JcXc and below on the flop and turn.

The standard thing to do is to check, though.
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Old 08-12-2007, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: 400nl - turned top2 on flush board v TAG

its close between call/fold on turn, but I shove river as played
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Old 08-12-2007, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: 400nl - turned top2 on flush board v TAG

He probably has J10/87/86 clubs or something in that realm. We get called like all the time if we shove river. I think its our only option but I usually just give up here and check.

You can make a strong argument for folding the turn.
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Old 08-12-2007, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: 400nl - turned top2 on flush board v TAG

if we call this turn and he checks when another club falls, we have to push, imo.
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