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08-11-2007, 02:04 AM
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25nl - Playing big pots with big hands
I will post results for these two hands because I want to find out what kinds of flops I should be happy to re-raise all in when I am met with resistance. Both hands are very similar with slightly different boards. Keeping in mind the opponents are different too, so the dynamic changes but here are the hands anyway:
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (http://www.legopoker.com http://www.legopoker.com/hh) Oasis123 (SB): $42.70 BB: $34.55 UTG: $27.00 MP: $34.85 CO: $63.40 BTN: $11.45 Preflop: Oasis123 is dealt Ac Ah (6 Players) UTG folds, MP calls $0.25, 2 folds, Oasis123 raises to $1.25, BB folds, MP calls $1.00 Standard raise. Perhaps I could have bumped it up an extra BB since I will be OOP. I see FruityPro do this in his videos. Flop: ($2.75) Js 2h Qh (2 Players) Oasis123 bets $2.00, MP raises to $8.75, Oasis123 raises all-in to $41.45, MP calls all-in for $24.85 Uncalled bet of $7.85 returned to Oasis123 I go ahead and fire out my standard continuation bet on a fairly coordinated board. 2 suits and and some suited connected cards. He raises me a fair amount and I shove for an absurd amount of money. He is sitting with more then 100bb and I think it's a terrible mistake to be doing this so deep. Maybe a call here is fine to keep the pot small and take a look at a turn card. If it is a scare card I might have checked and seen what he did. Even if it is a brick turn card, betting still seems like a bad play because villain likes his hand enough on the flop to raise me huge. Turn: ($69.95) 4c (2 Players - 2 All-In) River: ($69.95) 6d (2 Players - 2 All-In) Pot Size: $69.95 ($3 Rake) MP had 2c 2s (three of a kind, Twos) and WON (+$32.10) Oasis123 had Ac Ah (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$34.85) He has a set and holds; getting my money in as a pretty severe dog. ------------------------------------------ And the second hand... Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (http://www.legopoker.com http://www.legopoker.com/hh) SB: $25.25 BB: $46.90 UTG: $21.10 MP: $24.10 Oasis123 (CO): $25.05 BTN: $30.10 Preflop: Oasis123 is dealt As Ad (6 Players) 2 folds, Oasis123 raises to $1.00, BTN calls $1.00, 2 folds Standard open with AA. 1 player in position calls us. We do know he is playing 42/11/2 - so he's playing a lot of hands. Whether that means calls lots of raising or limping a lot we are not too sure, but we do know he is keen to play. Flop: ($2.35) Qs 9c 8s (2 Players) Oasis123 bets $2.00, BTN raises to $8.35, Oasis123 raises all-in to $24.05, BTN calls $15.70 Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to Oasis123 The board is pretty coordinated so I go ahead and fire close to pot. He instantly raises me a similar amount to an earlier hand but the board here is a little more coordinated. The flop fits broadway cards easily, and there are 2 suits. I decide to shove (same as earlier hand) and he calls. Maybe I am being results orientated, but perhaps a shove on a wet board is warranted, but on a dry board perhaps I should just be calling these raises and aiming to play a smaller pot. If I take that line on a dry board, I don't have to be as worried of potential scare cards. Conversely, on this board there are a lot of scare cards that can fall on the turn so maybe getting it all in here is best. An added note, if this player was more passive I would be more likely to believe him, because any time a passive player is raising, alarm bells should be going off. Unfortunately, he is not an extremely passive player so he can't give us an excuse to get away from our hand. Turn: ($50.45) 8c (2 Players - 1 All-In) River: ($50.45) Th (2 Players - 1 All-In) Pot Size: $50.45 ($2.50 Rake) BTN had Qh Js (a straight, Queen high) and WON (+$22.90) Oasis123 had As Ad (two pair, Aces and Eights) and LOST (-$25.05) I am a 67/31 favorite when the money goes in on the flop. We did manage to get our money is good, but I am wondering whether my flop shove is standard in this situation. --------------- My question is, when we are met with resistance with our big hands on the flop, is the the flop texture giving us any hints on when it is okay to re-raise all in? If the board is dry and we are played back at it is generally bad to put in another raise? And when it is a wet board, the possibility of a draw is more likely so getting our money in is better there? I took the same action on both hands (re-shoving all) with different results. I am wondering when it is okay to do this, because the first time I am crushed, and the time he has a draw. How am I supposed to distinguish between them? Hope this makes sense. 
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08-11-2007, 02:27 AM
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Re: 25nl - Playing big pots with big hands
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08-11-2007, 04:34 AM
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Re: 25nl - Playing big pots with big hands
The short answer is yes, resistence on a dry board is much more scary because the number of hands he can be doing this with is much smaller and a larger percentage are ahead of us. Of course this depends on villain, if hes prepared to push draws then shoving becomes a bigger option. If hes usually pretty passive call and see what happens on the turn.
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