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Old 08-10-2007, 07:48 PM
hra146 hra146 is offline
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Default Yesterday I dreamt of winrates, not kidding. (LC?)

Your winrate is a balloon. Fill a balloon with air and let it go. It will fall down. Thats because of gravity. Gravity is rake. If there were no gravity, your balloon would hover endlessly into a given direction.

Now that there is gravity, you have to fill your balloon with gas if you want to make it float. A gas like helium. Fill a balloon with a little bit of helium and it will eventually float. The helium is your winning game. +EV decisions. Make some +EV decisions and just a little less mistakes and your balloon will float. It can withstand gravity, but its not given a vertical direction. Neither upwards, nor downwards. Thats theory however. In reality there is wind. Wind is variance.

A balloon with just enough helium in it to withstand gravity surrenders to the wind. The wind will take it wherever it wants to. Sometimes up to the skies, sometimes down to the ground.

Now add a little more helium and your balloon will seek to rise. However, wind is strong. A heavy breeze and it will hit the ground. Eventually as well as slowly it will go up. However, since wind is strong you may not even know whether your balloon is just filled with air, or helium. Its movements seem arbitrary and you cant always observe it long enough to indentify a certain trend.

Now add a lot of helium. Wind is still strong, but your balloon will rise quickly. It takes little time to tell that your balloon is in fact filled with helium. And in just two more moments you can tell that your balloon is filled with lots of it.

You have a winning balloon. And you know it even before others can even tell whether there is any helium in their balloons at all.
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Old 08-10-2007, 08:09 PM
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Default Re: Yesterday I dreamt of winrates, not kidding. (LC?)

really weird post, but very good comparison
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Old 08-10-2007, 08:39 PM
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Default Re: Yesterday I dreamt of winrates, not kidding. (LC?)

deep. was this dream PCP induced?
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Old 08-10-2007, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: Yesterday I dreamt of winrates, not kidding. (LC?)

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"99 Red Balloons"

You and I in a little toy shop
buy a bag of balloons with the money we've got
Set them free at the break of dawn
'Til one by one, they were gone
Back at base, bugs in the software
Flash the message, "Something's out there"
Floating in the summer sky
99 red balloons go by.


99 red balloons floating in the summer sky
Panic bells, it's red alert
There's something here from somewhere else
The war machine, it springs to life
Opens up one eager eye
Focusing it on the sky
As 99 red balloons go by.


99 Decision Street, 99 ministers meet
To worry, worry, super-scurry
Call out the troops now in a hurry
This is what we've waited for
This is it boys, this is war
The president is on the line
As 99 red balloons go by.


99 Kriegsminister
Streichholz und Benzinkanister
Hielten sich für schlaue Leute
Witterten schon fette Beute
Riefen: Krieg und wollten Macht
Mann, wer haette das gedacht
Dass es einmal soweit kommt
Wegen 99 Luftballons


99 dreams I have had
In every one a red balloon
It's all over and I'm standin' pretty
In the dust that was a city
If I could find a souvenir
Just to prove the world was here...
And here it is, a red balloon
I think of you and let it go.

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I thought Id post it because its about as appropriate as your OP.
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Old 08-10-2007, 09:56 PM
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Default Re: Yesterday I dreamt of winrates, not kidding. (LC?)

I don't know if your location is supposed to say "tap whater + shwag" but with posts like these you certainly aren't smoking shwag.
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Old 08-11-2007, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: Yesterday I dreamt of winrates, not kidding. (LC?)

and your BR is how high off the ground you are. I like it.
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Old 08-11-2007, 12:24 AM
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Nice. What made you post this and was this your idea?
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Old 08-11-2007, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: Yesterday I dreamt of winrates, not kidding. (LC?)

MY BALLOON IS [censored]
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Old 08-11-2007, 06:05 AM
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I don't know if your location is supposed to say "tap whater + shwag" but with posts like these you certainly aren't smoking shwag.

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na, shag = rolling tabacco cause Im busto and I cant afford real cigarettes.


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Nice. What made you post this and was this your idea?

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A couple of days ago somebody says that I will be able to determine my winrate more quickly the more of a winning player I am. I thought about it for a while trying to figure out why that would be. After a while I got the picture and then yesterday night I dreamt about these balloons.


@ those who think Im on crack

Im not trying to seek approval here and I know I post a lot of [censored] at times. But I dont think this is as random as it seems. With this analogy (?) you could explain why winrate affects variance to 7-year olds (not really, ldo, but yeah).

I just find it an astonishingly accurate as well as simplistic model to explain variance and winrate.
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Old 08-11-2007, 09:24 AM
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Now add a little more helium and your balloon will seek to rise. However, wind is strong. A heavy breeze and it will hit the ground. Eventually as well as slowly it will go up. However, since wind is strong you may not even know whether your balloon is just filled with air, or helium. Its movements seem arbitrary and you cant always observe it long enough to indentify a certain trend.

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vnh, sir. The entire analogy is neat, but in particular I like this description of the illusory nature of short term results. I have tried without success to express this idea many times over.
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