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Old 08-10-2007, 05:42 PM
selector2006 selector2006 is offline
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Default [25NL] I have JJ - AA on the flop

Villain is 57 / 9.5 / 6.5(60 hands)

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SB ($23.45)
BB ($15.85)
Hero ($41.10)
MP ($5.70)
Button ($24.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $0.5</font>, Hero calls $0.50.

Turn: ($3.10) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $0.75</font>, Hero calls $0.75.

River: ($4.60) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3</font>, Hero ??

Final Pot: $4.60

I thought raising the flop has no value. I think a vpip=50% calls with ace-rag, so that ace could have hit him. If not, he can bluff into me, so I just call the flop and the turn.
But on the river he makes a rather big bet compared to the flop and turn. That made me think he has an ace.

Is this an auto-call or do you think my read is right and he has an ace?
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Old 08-10-2007, 05:45 PM
losingdonkey losingdonkey is offline
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Default Re: [25NL] I have JJ - AA on the flop

I raise the flop when I get donkbet here. If called, I shutdown. I generally take down the pot here. In retrospect I guess this is a bad play though since you're raising for information.
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Old 08-10-2007, 05:52 PM
anthb7210p anthb7210p is offline
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Default Re: [25NL] I have JJ - AA on the flop

raise flop
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Old 08-10-2007, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: [25NL] I have JJ - AA on the flop

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Is this an auto-call or do you think my read is right and he has an ace?

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It's very hard to tell in this situation because of the way you played the hand. You just called villain's two weak bets. So, he could have an A, sure, or have absolutely nothing and attempting to bluff you out.
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Old 08-10-2007, 07:46 PM
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Default Re: [25NL] I have JJ - AA on the flop

Often times I even expect to see KK or QQ here based on the Post flop play, but I imagine he would have raised pre with those hands.
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Old 08-10-2007, 08:02 PM
a1Six5Six a1Six5Six is offline
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Default Re: [25NL] I have JJ - AA on the flop

As played I'd call. If you were best on the flop you're still best now. With that VPIP and agg. factor he's betting air a large percentage of the time.

If he's not a station a flop raise might have clarified the situation.
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Old 08-10-2007, 08:34 PM
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Default Re: [25NL] I have JJ - AA on the flop

I don't mind calling down in these spots. There is nothing he can be drawing to and although a raise can certainly be called by a worse hand, it isn't going to showdown much. Opponent is a maniac so he can really have ATC. Expect him overbet pot on river with a real hand, this is a call.
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