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Old 08-09-2007, 07:55 PM
Chipchucker5 Chipchucker5 is offline
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Default $114: L1 family pot out of bb

I know I could've folded pf, but I didn't. Do you like a follow through bet on the turn? What do you do facing the river bet as played?

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UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1530)
MP3 (t1490)
CO (t1460)
Button (t1540)
SB (t1480)
Hero (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG raises to t40</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, MP1 calls t40, MP2 calls t40, MP3 calls t40, CO calls t40, Button calls t40, SB calls t30, Hero calls t20

Flop: (t320) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8 players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t200</font>, <font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, MP2 calls t200, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>

Turn: (t720) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks

River: (t720) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP2 bets t200</font>, <font color="gray">Hero?</font>
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Old 08-09-2007, 08:20 PM
Christian_Peters Christian_Peters is offline
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Default Re: $114: L1 family pot out of bb

c/f turn
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Old 08-09-2007, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: $114: L1 family pot out of bb

Being OOP on this turn really sucks.

If I bet I think I bet about the same on the flop and I don't mind pf call. I have no idea how I feel about a c/r. I feel you could get a bet out of KQ and then take it down but I think this loses value, or puts all your chips i when WB. Also doing this kind of reps your hand exactly so your pretty much never ahead when he calls. I also feel c/c under reps your hand too much and you'd be forced to call/ get a lot of chips in on the turn.

Flop Bet/Fold to a puch/rr (if he has KJ nh) &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; c/r &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; c/c

I don't think I check this turn very often unless I have intention of c/r which I don't do often anyway. I think your plan here should be to bet about 1/2 pot, even though it prices in hands like KQ,Q10. Then push on a blank turn.

probably c/f this river if played like this.

as played I fold and expect him to have KQ/KJ/Q10
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Old 08-09-2007, 10:31 PM
GatorXP GatorXP is offline
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Default Re: $114: L1 family pot out of bb

Turn bet is a must here. A read would surely help on the river here, could very well be a bluff, dont mind a call but you will usually be beat.
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Old 08-10-2007, 05:22 AM
DDBeast DDBeast is offline
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Default Re: $114: L1 family pot out of bb

Turn is a crappy spot. I would like to bet/fold but stacks are too shallow. I think I probably check too. On the river, that bet reaks of a value bet and I don't think he's doing it with one pair. Fold
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Old 08-10-2007, 09:14 AM
darinvg darinvg is offline
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Default Re: $114: L1 family pot out of bb

You have to call preflop w/ this monster pot.
Flop looks good. Turn sucks but I guess checking is best. I was thinking call river w/ odds until I noticed it was one card to a straight so fold.
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Old 08-10-2007, 10:09 AM
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Default Re: $114: L1 family pot out of bb

I probably bet/call turn. I don't expect to be ahead a lot, but I expect to be ahead enough you are basically racing against this range which I don't think is that unreasonable.
44,AKs,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,AKo,KTo+
Also if he has KXcc in his preflop range he will shove over your turn bet a lot.
As played call river, just because you rarely need to be good and he could have clubs here.
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Old 08-10-2007, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: $114: L1 family pot out of bb

Bet turn, fold river. This reeks of KQ.
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