nice draw in pos

MusashiStyle · #1 08-09-2007, 01:19 AM

preflop/flop seem standard. wtf do i do on turn?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($16.05)
CO ($9.45)
Hero ($18.40)
SB ($12.80)
BB ($9.85)
UTG ($13.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.3, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold.

Flop: ($0.70) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $0.5, Hero raises to $1.9, SB calls $1.40.

Turn: ($4.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $10.6 (All-In), Hero calls $10.60.

River: ($0) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $25.70

ShipitFMA · #2 08-09-2007, 01:33 AM

4bb pf, flop is fine...but turn call sucks
don't get to attached to draws

corsakh · #3 08-09-2007, 01:34 AM

What do you mean what you do? You fold it.

derosnec · #4 08-09-2007, 01:37 AM

fold

Blake Kyles · #5 08-09-2007, 01:40 AM

This is a pretty easy fold. You don't want to put all your money in with a draw, no matter how big it is. Or at the very least you want to be the one pushing the action, not calling off you chips.

Next time just fold and save your money. The guy who moved in looks pretty aggro, so just wait till you get a monster and he'll probably hang himself.

cooker3 · #6 08-09-2007, 01:58 AM

Yeah it's a fold, not getting the odds

MusashiStyle · #7 08-09-2007, 02:09 AM

assumming q9k8 and any club is good it seems i am getting correct odds

ajmargarine · #8 08-09-2007, 02:14 AM

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assumming q9k8 and any club is good it seems i am getting correct odds

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Show me pokerstove and I'll believe you.

Antinome · #9 08-09-2007, 02:14 AM

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This is a pretty easy fold. You don't want to put all your money in with a draw, no matter how big it is. Or at the very least you want to be the one pushing the action, not calling off you chips.

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It is a fold, and it is preferable to have fold equity, but banalities like "don't ... put all your money in with a draw" are dead wrong, especially when qualified by "no matter how big it is". Pot odds determine whether we make the call. Period. We don't 'wait for better spots'. This isn't a tournament final table where we have to consider chip value versus dollar value.

Furthermore, the observation that he is pretty aggressive should make us more likely to call with marginal hands, not less. Waiting for a monster is daft.

members_only · #10 08-09-2007, 02:23 AM

OP needs 10.6/(10.6+10.6+4.5)=41% equity to make a breakeven call

If we give him every straight, flush, trips and two pair as outs, he is 45% to win the hand (courtesy of Card Player as I don't have stove on this computer and can't be bothered to download)

That is quite generous but it doesn't include the non-zero possiblity that OP is already ahead

My first instinct was obv pitch it too but I'm not sure it's as clear as everyone seems to think