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Old 08-08-2007, 03:47 PM
0uTpLaYeD 0uTpLaYeD is offline
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Default 25NL - AK against maniac

I have been playing at 19/16/6 and have been 3betting villian a lot, but only went to flop once with him(I Cbet and he folded). He has been showing down a lot of marginal hands like J9, 76, K8, etc. and he has been winning.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $28.45
BB: $36.80
Hero (UTG): $29.25
MP: $29.60
CO: $35.25
BTN: $26.60

Reads: <font color="blue">Villian has been playing at 81/59/2 over ~60 hands.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, MP folds, CO calls $1.00, 2 folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.10) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $4.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to ?

Do we felt this hand? If so, on what street?
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:11 PM
TheSalche TheSalche is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - AK against maniac

You raise to $14 here and call a shove, or just call the flop and raise all-in on the turn when BB bets.
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - AK against maniac

what about postflop? after he calls preflop with marginal hands does he stack off with TPNK, or is he passive?
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - AK against maniac

So this is definately a shove? Even against a very loose preflop, but not so aggressive post-flop player?
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - AK against maniac

I haven't seen him play a pot over 50BBs yet, the marginal hands he has shown down were passively played.

FWIW his AF by street is:
Flop:2.25
Turn:1
River:5
Still though this sample size is rather small.
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - AK against maniac

What range are you putting him on here that he will 4 bet shove with a worse hand than heroes? Surely, any big pp reraises pf, any middle pair doesn't 4 bet shove unless he is a psycho postflop, and any of the weak pairs he could have don't either. What does is two pair and a set imho. KQ/KJ maybe? Not enough to shove. I call the raise, and re-evaluate my position on the turn. If he open shoves or something, I would think about laying it down. If he checks, I 3/4 pot and probably call a push. Either way, I don't think a 3 bet here and calling a shove is a good option as you will be 4 bet when you are behind, and could move him off his weaker pairs when you are ahead.
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