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Old 08-08-2007, 01:20 AM
KingGordy KingGordy is offline
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Default QQ hand where I hate my play

Villain is a LAG regular. He views me as a TAG. Comments on all streets are welcome. I have some ideas as to what I should have done but I'll see what you guys think before I post them.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
6 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $678
UTG+1: $1.958
CO: $634.60
Button: $348
SB: $594
BB: $172.85

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $21</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $69</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($147, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $100</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($347, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($347, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $200</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $600</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $400 returned to UTG+1.

Results:
Final pot: $747
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:30 AM
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Default Re: QQ hand where I hate my play

I typically c/r AI on the flop.

I think turn is okay though weak leading (or just leading like $250) might be okay as well.

River I think is fine.
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:47 AM
KingGordy KingGordy is offline
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Default Re: QQ hand where I hate my play

I would agree with the get it in on the flop sentiment if this were a BU/CO vs. blinds type battle, as he would have lots of random J's, combo draws, or whatever, but given that it's UTG vs. UTG+1 I think his range should have less random crap in it, and should mostly be 88+, AQ or whatever, which has me in pretty bad shape.

Also my percieved range should be pretty tight from his perspecitve, and a lot of my range nails this flop, so he shouldn't be c-betting it that light. Given that, I think if I shove this flop and get called I'm probably in pretty bad shape.
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:00 AM
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Default Re: QQ hand where I hate my play

KG,
if you c/c flop (as you did), what is your typical plan on a 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] turn? c/c again? c/f? c/r?
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:06 AM
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KG,
if you c/c flop (as you did), what is your typical plan on a 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] turn? c/c again? c/f? c/r?

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heh, I don't know that's where poker gets hard. Honestly though I think I could c/f and feel decent about it. I mean from his perspective, after I call his 3 bet pre and c/c that flop, my range is AJ+, big draws, and while he's aggro I think he'd have to be absolutely insane to try to bluff me off that range.
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: QQ hand where I hate my play

Did u think u were beat preflop?
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:32 AM
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Did u think u were beat preflop?

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No
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:36 AM
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Default Re: QQ hand where I hate my play

I think the check call on flop is alright u didnt want to build a big pot OOP, not sure why you wouldnt bet the turn only one hand beets ya. Nice fold though on river.
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Old 08-08-2007, 03:14 AM
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Default Re: QQ hand where I hate my play

c/c flop or crai flop is fine, given that you c/c'd i'd c/f on later streets, wouldn't be the riv here (missing out on too much value?)
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