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Old 08-07-2007, 04:10 PM
chrismystero chrismystero is offline
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Default $6 NLTRN does this bluff work?

this is 3rd hand vs villain. I folded my button first hand, folded my BB to a 3x raise 2nd hand. I do not do this against a bad player but figured it could work against a good, thinking player. Villain is ranked on sharkscope for total profit for low stakes (I consider that a pretty good player). The preflop call is thin for sure, but given that it is made, please provide thoughts on this entire bluff of a hand, given the information provided.

A thought of my own: would a turn shove have been a better approach?

PS: Since villain had pretty solid stats, there's a slight chance he's a 2+2'er. Villain, if you are, your thoughts appreciated as well.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (2 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t1470)
BB (t1530)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t55</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t140</font>, Hero calls t85.

Flop: (t280) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t120</font>, Hero calls t120.

Turn: (t520) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t300</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, BB calls t300.

River: (t1720) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t610 (All-In)</font>
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Old 08-07-2007, 04:21 PM
TNixon TNixon is offline
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Default Re: $6 NLTRN does this bluff work?

Unless the crowd at PS is very different from the one at FT...

Good luck finding somebody who will fold 22 there in a $6 tourney.

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Old 08-07-2007, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: $6 NLTRN does this bluff work?

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Unless the crowd at PS is very different from the one at FT...

Good luck finding somebody who will fold 22 there in a $6 tourney.

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did u even read the info i provided about villain?
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Old 08-07-2007, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: $6 NLTRN does this bluff work?

Some random thoughts:

You folded the first 2 hands, and villian is thinking. So he probably thinks you are tight. That means you can't really represent a 5.

I also doubt that a fish would push river after a min. raise on the turn. Such a passive player would probably bet ~200?

Btw, you are screwed if he looks you up on sharkscope.
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Old 08-07-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: $6 NLTRN does this bluff work?

I'm not sure what you are trying to rep here, this looks pretty spewy though.
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Old 08-07-2007, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: $6 NLTRN does this bluff work?

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Btw, you are screwed if he looks you up on sharkscope.

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Why is that?
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Old 08-07-2007, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: $6 NLTRN does this bluff work?

Then he will know that you are a thinking player and probably trying to trick him. The player you're trying to represent would have an negative ROI.
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:09 PM
HokieGreg HokieGreg is offline
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Default Re: $6 NLTRN does this bluff work?

i just think it looks totally unnecessary

if he calls the turn min-raise he should pretty much never fold on the river

you are basing such a risky play on reads that you have gathered over 3 hands and assumptions about him.
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: $6 NLTRN does this bluff work?

the 6's should only be about value betting
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:30 PM
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Default Re: $6 NLTRN does this bluff work?

Fold preflop or on the flop.

This is very bad. He's getting 3-1 (the better somebody is at the 6s the more likely he knows what pot odds are) and probably has some sort of 1-2nd pair or overpair which I highly doubt he is folding.

The only thing that goes into your favor, is for every time I play somebody I "respect" or think I should "respect" and look at a terrible line like this for almost any reasonable hand except like JJ or something, they show up with something dumb like J7s with this kind of line.

But in the 6 dollars your line is so often some sort of elaborate bluff I would call with a good amount of hands if I am villain, so I highly doubt this is a good play.

Also, you don't get to be a sharkscope leader at the lower limits 3-betting suited connectors. Factor in his likely 3-bet range here and his hands are looking pretty scary.
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