1/2nl Live fine tuning Hand #2

[warrantofice]

I was playing at a local casino at the 1/2nl table, $5 max rake and there was 9 people sitting in the hand. I had a starting stack of $90

Preflop: Hero raises to $10 from early position w/(Ad,As), Middle position calls, Button Calls, SB folds, and the BB calls

Flop ($31): 9s, 6s, 3s

BB checks, Hero Raises to $15, Middle Position Reraises to $30, Button Pushes all in for $85, BB folds, Hero Calls/all-in for $80, Middle Position Calls

Turn ($281): 7h

River ($281): 6c

Hero Shows As,Ad for 2 pair Aces and 6'ss
Middle Position shows 4s,8s for 9 high flush
Button Shows down 10s, Qs for Queen high flush

So i'm a little unsure with this hand, first off i have to question is raising to $10 to small in a loose live cash game? Should i have raised to $15? I was short stacked and pretty sure I was going to push all-in on most flops, also i was kinda hoping that if someone was to wake up with AK or a small pocket pair i would be reraised.

On the flop, I'm priced into calling even though there has been so much action behind me right? Can i ever assume i'm drawing against to flushes and i only have 5 outs to hit? Or if someone has a set am i still correct to call cause with that type of action people have to have some big hands.

[Javanewt]

Ouch. I couldn't fold that when I was short-stacked against other short-stacks. You were planning to get it all-in, anyway, which happened. MP is an idiot for calling the pre-flop raise, but he got what he deserved.

I don't think the outcome would have been too much different had MP not been in the hand, anyway.

[RyanCMU]

You should have bet more then $15 to start on the flop...

[Deathtiny]

i'd bet about 25ish on the flop and then probably call the push

as played, fold. button is never bluffing here and the only thing you can beat is the odd pair of kings with a spade, which would have been played strangely.
MP is probably folding half the time, killing your odds.

just wish you had excluded the results.

[chillywater8]

Betting $10 with $80 behind is giving set odds(somewhat marginaly) betting 16-20 doesn't. Also you didn't bet enough post flop. With 1 caller I bet 75-90% the pot with 2+ callers I push. If you lose rebuy for full amount.

[skoldpadda]

Bet the flop harder. Fine otherwise. No way should you fold after all that action, not with the nut draw.

[warrantofice]

Chillywater i don't understand what you mean by betting $10 is still giving a set odds to call, i mean i understand what you mean, but say my stack was $250, i'm not going to be betting $35 preflop so that i don't give sets the chances to draw favourably to my hand. I figured that a raise of $10 gave a relatively good price to get only 1-3 callers preflop (perhaps my table wasn't that loose) and could have easily have given the button or anybody else with a medium sized pair the chance to resteal.

The flop came out as 3s,6s,8s. This flop was not perfect, but nor was it terrible. I thought that the $15 bet would be enough to give people drawing to staights mediocre odds, and it would be small enough that people with a single high spade might stick around to try to catch. With the size of my stack, i think i was basically committed to almost any flop, and this was one of the few flops which i could slow down enough to try to extract some extra profit.

Please tell me if i'm wrong cause i hate to be ignorant.

warrantofice

[CalledDownLight]

Raise to like $15 preflop and bet pot on the flop.

[mce86]

Being short stacked, making it 10 is fine. With that type of flop, Im betting 30 on the flop, and making my call easier since there will be more money in the pot if I get raised. If someone flopped the flush, then Im drawing to the nuts. Calling here is okay, and just unlucky that two flushes were out.

[jjshabado]

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Chillywater i don't understand what you mean by betting $10 is still giving a set odds to call, i mean i understand what you mean, but say my stack was $250, i'm not going to be betting $35 preflop so that i don't give sets the chances to draw favourably to my hand.

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No but if you have $250 you're not as likely to get it all-in and so you're not offering your stack as implied odds.