what would u do here?

hamnegger · #1 08-06-2007, 11:43 PM

i know many hate my limp here, but as played what to do here?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t150/t300
(Ante: t25)
9 players
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Stack sizes:
hamnegger: t20229
UTG+1: t4375
MP1: t6160
MP2: t3945
MP3: t13230
CO: t3255
Button: t12308
SB: t2745
BB: t15990

Pre-flop: (9 players) hamnegger is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
hamnegger calls t300 (pot was t675), 6 folds, SB calls t150 (pot was t975), BB checks.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t1125, 3 players)
SB is all-in t2420, BB folds, hamnegger ?

ItalianFX · #2 08-07-2007, 12:37 AM

I'd probably fold.

xdeucesx · #3 08-07-2007, 12:38 AM

I know you said to ignore the limp...but there is absolutely no reason you should be limping this hand in with your stack size compaired to the table.

Coz · #4 08-07-2007, 01:37 AM

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There are no good draws that your opponent is shoving here, he could have something like KT but I doubt it. You are behind to any ace and you don't have too many outs anyway.

levAA · #5 08-07-2007, 05:02 AM

i don't have a problem with playing QJs in early position with a big stack, but i would open with a raise, because your postflop play gets much easier - just like here, if SB had called your raise an pushes now i would fold in a second.

here i think you can call. i don't think SB overbets the pot with an Ace or a set. so i would set him on middle or buttom pair or, which is most likely a straight draw. but i wouldn't be surprised if this was just a complete bluff.

all in all i think you are in front most of the time

alavet · #6 08-07-2007, 05:29 AM

call

kimos123 · #7 08-07-2007, 07:29 AM

call since you are a big stack and you can affort it althoguh i really dont like it at all.

Soulman · #8 08-07-2007, 08:14 AM

I'm calling, he's probably pushing here since he (correctly, most of the time) assumes you don't have an ace, he's got a draw, Qx etc.

4CardStraight · #9 08-07-2007, 10:13 AM

IF I limp crappy easily dominated cards looking to speculate to hit a monster, I SURE AS FCKU dont call all in flopping middle pair.

Not sure why I would ever in my life make this play preflop, as you say many here hate your play pre, whatever its your buyin you get to play your cards how you want, but dont you think generating even a little fold equity by raising this trash helps its speculative value in the long run? People dont like playing against the big stack when he has already signified he has a hand he likes. If we raise it not only gives us value in FE, but it also generates plausibility for a cbet on flops that whiff.

jbeckham42 · #10 08-07-2007, 03:09 PM

Call - you can afford to lose to his weak Ace, if he has it. There are many short stacked opponents who could assume you didn't have an ace (because of your preflop limp)and push with a worse Queen, any 9, TJ, or any pocket pair -- laying you bad odds and hopefully taking the pot. Suck it up and don't limp next time. Even if he does have an ace, you still will draw out 1 in 5 times. Next time, fold the hand preflop and wait for a better position to speculate with a nice drawing hand - either that, or raise it up preflop and go for the gold.