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Old 08-06-2007, 02:57 AM
thac thac is offline
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Default Almost 200 bb deep, boat vs reg in a butchered hand

Villain is a pretty decent regular, running at 15/12 I think. I am not sure why I didn't 3-bet preflop, I honestly thought I raised preflop and it wasn't until I looked through PT that I realized I just called preflop. So you can discuss that if you like, but it's pretty unnecessary.

On the flop, I was pretty sure I raised preflop so I led out and he raised. I guess looking back that's fine because he took the lead preflop. I decided to just call and see what happened on the turn when my dream card comes.

Now what? Leading again looks bad because I lost the betting lead and I'm trying to regain it and it's very fishy. Is check-raise my only viable option?


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $196.80
BB: $101.50
UTG: $307.60
MP: $103.50
CO: $100.00
BTN: $120.85

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $3.50</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $3.00, BB folds

Flop: ($8) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $20.00</font>, Hero calls $14.00

Turn: ($48) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero
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Old 08-06-2007, 03:08 AM
luckybacon luckybacon is offline
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Default Re: Almost 200 bb deep, boat vs reg in a butchered hand

i dnot think i like a raise here pf against this player. c/r turn looks fine here
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Old 08-06-2007, 03:09 AM
HumbertHumbert HumbertHumbert is offline
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Default Re: Almost 200 bb deep, boat vs reg in a butchered hand

i like a half pot bet here then a bigger bet on river. i think villain is going to check his big pp here a lot given stacks.
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Old 08-06-2007, 03:18 AM
Dire Dire is offline
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Default Re: Almost 200 bb deep, boat vs reg in a butchered hand

You really have to lead this turn. With stack sizes, he's probably not calling/shoving over a check raise here and he may even check behind. I'd make it about $40 and go from there.
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Old 08-06-2007, 03:19 AM
Dire Dire is offline
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Default Re: Almost 200 bb deep, boat vs reg in a butchered hand

Also: Preflop was perfect. 3-betting a nit's UTG range from the SB with TT is just bad.
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Old 08-06-2007, 04:03 AM
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Default Re: Almost 200 bb deep, boat vs reg in a butchered hand

c/c c/r anyone?
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Old 08-06-2007, 04:13 AM
PedroCerrano PedroCerrano is offline
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Default Re: Almost 200 bb deep, boat vs reg in a butchered hand

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You really have to lead this turn. With stack sizes, he's probably not calling/shoving over a check raise here and he may even check behind. I'd make it about $40 and go from there.

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Totally agree here. If he's stacking off here he's coming over the top of your turn bet anyways, but there's no guarantee of that. Let him enjoy his trip to Valuetown.
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Old 08-06-2007, 04:48 AM
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Default Re: Almost 200 bb deep, boat vs reg in a butchered hand

checking here sucks because he's checking back worse pp's, but calling when you lead

and you're stacking JJ+ either way
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Old 08-06-2007, 04:50 AM
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Default Re: Almost 200 bb deep, boat vs reg in a butchered hand

$36
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:03 AM
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Default Re: Almost 200 bb deep, boat vs reg in a butchered hand

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$36

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we would like the pot to be big enough to be able to get allin at some point

$43
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